City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged

[kiddo]

looking4Tutor:

If christian will to read Watchman Nee's book, The Spiritual Man, and follow through with their life, the angels in heaven will rejoice.


http://www.ministrybooks.org/books.cfm?id=2CC74A

This book 'cut' through the Spirit.
for want of a better word............

[phtthp]

tankee:

Is this Hanafi the same Indonesian businessman that co-own the sentosa cove penthouse with Kong Hee?

refer to Last row: extreme Left hand side picture (#25.)
once click inside, you'll see a picture of the penthouse.
right beside the picture (to the right), it was reported that:-
\"Indonesian Wahju Hanafi is registered as the joint owner of the Sentosa Cove penthouse.\"

http://business.asiaone.com/Business/My%2BMoney/Property/Story/A1Story20120627-355755.html

[empressplace]

Dreamaurora:

I really wish I can help to absolve Roland Poon now. But like what I said earlier, I do not have black and white evidence to support my account. The church could easily dismiss my account and have a repeat of Roland Poon's incident. If I reveal my account now, my action would not be better than what CHC has done in response to this saga i.e. talk only, no proof. The only possible solution that I can think of if I can somehow get some of these ex-leaders to come out and support my account as well. I know public sentiments against the church is not good now, but I still want to do things correctly. That being said, I do feel that I owe Mr Poon an apology. If anyone here knows how to contact him, I would be grateful.

At this point, Mr Poon has probably moved on. If you have anything useful to add to this matter, you should write to CAD or Attorney General's Office. I believe Kiasuparents' forum is not the appropriate place to discuss unsubstantiated matters.

[Dreamaurora]

empressplace:

Dreamaurora:

I really wish I can help to absolve Roland Poon now. But like what I said earlier, I do not have black and white evidence to support my account. The church could easily dismiss my account and have a repeat of Roland Poon's incident. If I reveal my account now, my action would not be better than what CHC has done in response to this saga i.e. talk only, no proof. The only possible solution that I can think of if I can somehow get some of these ex-leaders to come out and support my account as well. I know public sentiments against the church is not good now, but I still want to do things correctly. That being said, I do feel that I owe Mr Poon an apology. If anyone here knows how to contact him, I would be grateful.

At this point, Mr Poon has probably moved on. If you have anything useful to add to this matter, you should write to CAD or Attorney General's Office. I believe Kiasuparents' forum is not the appropriate place to discuss unsubstantiated matters.

I agree. I will not discuss about this anymore and I hope other members not to inquire me on this matter anymore.

[TheBluePapa]

empressplace:

Dreamaurora:

I really wish I can help to absolve Roland Poon now. But like what I said earlier, I do not have black and white evidence to support my account. The church could easily dismiss my account and have a repeat of Roland Poon's incident. If I reveal my account now, my action would not be better than what CHC has done in response to this saga i.e. talk only, no proof. The only possible solution that I can think of if I can somehow get some of these ex-leaders to come out and support my account as well. I know public sentiments against the church is not good now, but I still want to do things correctly. That being said, I do feel that I owe Mr Poon an apology. If anyone here knows how to contact him, I would be grateful.

At this point, Mr Poon has probably moved on. If you have anything useful to add to this matter, you should write to CAD or Attorney General's Office. I believe Kiasuparents' forum is not the appropriate place to discuss unsubstantiated matters.

I really don't understand your logic. :?
if a chit chat thread which discusses anything under the sun and where people give their 2 cents worth of opinion on anything under the sun, is not the right place to discuss unsubstantiated matters, then where would be the right place to discuss such matters, in the CAD office ? :slapshead:
:slapshead: :slapshead:

let the moderators determine what should or should not be discussed in this thread. There's no need for 'local police' here.

[phtthp]

Concerned parents of City Harvest youths turn up for service


\"Even as thousands continued to show up at City Harvest Church at their second English service this weekend, caution has started to seep into parts of its congregation about church donations.

Several adults were seen accompanying their teenage children during the service but remaining seated and silent throughout the service. When Yahoo! spoke to some outside the conference hall, they said they were not churchgoers but parents of youths who attended service regularly.

“I’m still okay with my son going for service at CHC – he’s grown up and it’s his choice, but I was worried when I found out you could make donations through credit card – he uses our supplementary card and I’m not comfortable with him donating to a church that I personally wish was more accountable,” said a bank executive, 56, who wanted to be known as Mr Lim.

Another parent, Mdm Sally Low, 48, said she had attended to “hear Pastor Kong’s side of the story”.

“The newspapers are saying one thing, but my daughter says it’s not true. So I’m here to make sure my daughter doesn’t anyhow (sic) believe everything she hears,” said the mother of a 16-year-old churchgoer.\"

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/concerned-parents-of-city-harvest-youths-turn-up-for-service.html

[AC_Power]

Hi Dream,


You have my utmost respect. After hearing all these negativity about CHC, you have showed us what Christianity is all about.

I do not think you owe Mr Poon an apology. If anyone is to apologise, should be the one who had spoken to Poon and forced/coaxed/convinced him to retract his statement and issue the apology.

If Mr Poon has moved on, so should you. However, if Mr Poon decided to take a civil suit against CHC for damages (his reputation and the 5 figure sums on the apologies), I would think that you should then come forward.

Not everything needs to be in black and white now. After this case is over, the credibility of Kong Hee and gang will be in doubt if they are found guilty. Anything you can offer as a witness will further help Mr Poon in winning civil suit.

Hope to see more Christians like you.

[Lilac66]

AC_Power:

Hi Dream,


You have my utmost respect. After hearing all these negativity about CHC, you have showed us what Christianity is all about.

I do not think you owe Mr Poon an apology. If anyone is to apologise, should be the one who had spoken to Poon and forced/coaxed/convinced him to retract his statement and issue the apology.

If Mr Poon has moved on, so should you. However, if Mr Poon decided to take a civil suit against CHC for damages (his reputation and the 5 figure sums on the apologies), I would think that you should then come forward.

Not everything needs to be in black and white now. After this case is over, the credibility of Kong Hee and gang will be in doubt if they are found guilty. Anything you can offer as a witness will further help Mr Poon in winning civil suit.

Hope to see more Christians like you.

Yes, also do continue to engage us in this discussion (even though you can leave out the privy details if you're uncomfortable with it), as I feel I learn alot from your posts.

[buds]

Agree with both AC_Power and Lilac66.. I too have learnt so much from this discussion. Your representation... in delivering your thoughts and calmingly explaining to all of us here, the religion you represent... is very enlightening (to me personally). :hugs: Definitely clearer as well than the stuff I've heard from other followers. However, i believe all religions teach ppl to do good. Thanks for this..

[blessed777]

AC_Power:

If Mr Poon has moved on, so should you. However, if Mr Poon decided to take a civil suit against CHC for damages (his reputation and the 5 figure sums on the apologies), I would think that you should then come forward.
.

IMHO It is wiser as a Christian that Mr. Poon not to decide to take civil suit against CHC, although CHC was wrong to threaten him with lawsuit (if this is true).
1 Corinthians 6:1-7.
... is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers ! The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated?...

But if an innocent brother or sister is wrongly accused in court, i believe we need to come foward as witness if we are in a such position that able to disprove the false allegation. my two cents