City Harvest's founder Kong Hee & 4 others arrested/charged

[verykiasu2010]

zakashi:

Annabel Soh's looks and singing are many times better than Sun Ho. Do you know why Annabel is not given a chance to go to Hollywood for the crossover project?

she hasn't crossed over mah ........ also may be because she is ah Soh ...

all puns intended ...... joking joking

[peapot]

Why does people still support him after listening to the 39.3 part of the sermon??

[buds]

laughingcat:

chenwj:

[quote=\"phtthp\"]Annabel Soh is so sweet & pretty, younger & sing so well (click on her video) !

Did u confirm your wifey is not in this forums? :evil: :spank:

(but I agree with u )

Eh.....phtthp is a mummy leh. [/quote]
:rotflmao:

[verykiasu2010]

patagonia:

His parents are Christians. Their kid, their religion, their decision how they want to bring up the kid. We won't interfere, even when the boy was reluctant to go to church sometimes.


This is off-topic already. To get back on track, I'll again share with everyone Kong Hee's sermon in the recent Presence Conference 2012 in Sydney. It's about 30 minutes long, and do move the clip forward from 39:30 onwards. http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2012/04/kong-hees-fleecing-of-the-masses.html

I believe everyone should hear it for themselves since he's unlikely to repeat this in Singapore in short-term.

the whole clip I got from the link is only 36:59..... which part is the 39:30 ?

[concern2]

HVR:

concern2:

[quote=\"patagonia\"]
My 5-year old nephew recently told my mum, \"Por por, you can't go to Heaven because you don't go to church.\" My mum wasn't offended, but was sad that he's 'brainwashed' at such young age. In my mum's simple and uneducated mind, kids should be given a chance to learn and be exposed to different religions before they make their own decision at a later stage. I totally agree.

Thanks for sharing this, patagonia. My son also came back from school one day, asking me this question, \"Mummy, xxx said that if I am not a Christian, I will go to hell, is that true?\"

My answer to him was,\"Just be good, and do good deeds, be the best you can, and not to cause hurt or harm to others. When your time comes, whether you go to hell or go to heaven, it is for God to decide. We are still living on earth, so live your life well, don't be too overly concerned about these things.\"

He liked my answer and went away happily. Frankly, I was also caught off guard with that question, and it was the best I could come up with on the spot. Guess that's what I think unconsciously.

Good reply concern2! In fact this perspective is applicable to many other aspects of our life too.[/quote]Thanks, HVR, but remember what ksi said somewhere in this forum - you won't know how your child interprets it until you hear it from him/her? I checked with him and guess what, it didn't go in. All he remembered was the last part when I told him that he was an angel. (no wonder he had gone away happily :slapshead: )

And the funny thing is, he told me he had gone back to his friend to tell him that \"My mummy said I am an angel,\" to which the friend responded, \"Really ah! :scared: You're an angel....\"

:rotflmao: :roll: KIDS!

[Way2GO]

concern2:

patagonia:

My 5-year old nephew recently told my mum, \"Por por, you can't go to Heaven because you don't go to church.\" My mum wasn't offended, but was sad that he's 'brainwashed' at such young age. In my mum's simple and uneducated mind, kids should be given a chance to learn and be exposed to different religions before they make their own decision at a later stage. I totally agree.

Thanks for sharing this, patagonia. My son also came back from school one day, asking me this question, \"Mummy, xxx said that if I am not a Christian, I will go to hell, is that true?\"

My answer to him was,\"Just be good, and do good deeds, be the best you can, and not to cause hurt or harm to others. When your time comes, whether you go to hell or go to heaven, it is for God to decide. We are still living on earth, so live your life well, don't be too overly concerned about these things.\"

He liked my answer and went away happily. Frankly, I was also caught off guard with that question, and it was the best I could come up with on the spot. Guess that's what I think unconsciously.

d two of you wrote d most level-headed posts since d gates of hell were open
after sacredmusicals posed d question to Dreamaurora who rightly advised caution in answering a sensitive question n
was wise enuf to say he needs to ponder further on d question.

[empressplace]

verykiasu2010:

zakashi:

Annabel Soh's looks and singing are many times better than Sun Ho. Do you know why Annabel is not given a chance to go to Hollywood for the crossover project?

she hasn't crossed over mah ........ also may be because she is ah Soh ...

all puns intended ...... joking joking

Erm erm....not everyone can do the dutty wine...okay.

[Way2GO]

verykiasu2010:

zakashi:

Annabel Soh's looks and singing are many times better than Sun Ho. Do you know why Annabel is not given a chance to go to Hollywood for the crossover project?

she hasn't crossed over mah ........ also may be because she is ah Soh ...

all puns intended ...... joking joking

kekeke
my take
d Sun is d centre of d Universe n it always shines bright
Annabel is an Ah Soh, a place where d Sun doesn't shine.
d choice is obvious! :rotflmao:

[Way2GO]

kwcllf:

Sun_2010:

Puff, Sorry but I do feel your post is frivolous.
I am not a buddhist but religion being a sensitive topic should be approached with respect even when we do not agree, understand or believe in practices.
There is beauty in world religions, let's live and let live.

I agree.

But just to answer his question, in Buddhism, Life and Death are cycles everyone will go through........as for the karma part, it is difficult to fully explain especially if you are from different religion. But as Sun_2010 said, don't be frivolous. Have respect please!

puff:

I am a buddhist ... I am sorry if I seem disrespect or have offended some.
There are many diff type of Buddhism ( Theravada , mahayana etc) even within the same religion there are diff interpret by individual. In Buddhism ,some may be more focus on Buddha teaching while others more focus on praying Guanyin ... Wat I post earlier is not meant to be an insult as I myself go to temple too but it is wat I belief

Sun 2010/kwcllf,
Concur dat RESPECTing one another's faith n beliefs is an imperative pre-requisite to religious harmony.
'No Kidding' shd hv thot of dis when he/she wrote his/her posts.

I actually found puff's response \"back to rebirth ( maybe this help in overcrowding situation in heaven too :rotflmao: ) amusing though perhaps frivolous.
No kidding!
I wld hv thot fr d forummer’s posts dat hell (not heaven) wld be overcrowded with all those infidels,
those unfortunate masses who lived n died before d coming of Christ,
those hordes of uncivilized barbarians in far flung corners of d Earth who nvr get to hear d Lord’s teachings n
those poor, poor cute animals condemned to damnation from birth.

One thing I truly appreciate about adherents of d Buddhist faith is dat
they don’t readily invoke d Lord (whatever one may call HIM in their beliefs) n Salvation
to condemn believers of other faiths or non-believers to damnation.

[tutormum]

On a lighter note, I read about this story and hope it lighten things a bit so don't :spank:

Two men went to a river and boarded two different boats. The first man is a Christian and was going to a church gathering while the other was meeting his friends who were throwing a party. However, it seemed that they boarded the wrong boats. When the Christian reached his destination, he was greeted by some merry makers holding a bottle of booze on one hand and a sexy young chick on the other. They were playing loud music and having a hell of a time. The Christian could only sit at a corner until the party was over. The other man went to the church gathering and saw a group of people singing hymns and praying. He was restless and waited till it was over. The two men boarded their boats and returned to their original destination. When they alighted from the boats, they exclaimed immediately \"Goodness gracious, I've just been to hell.\"
Just to share my own convictions here. Hell is not made for people. God made hell for the devil and his followers. Before Jesus came in the flesh, the Jews followed the laws of the prophets. They are saved through faith. Jesus came with a new covenant and we are living in the grace period whereby we are saved by believing in Jesus as our Lord. Questions were raised for those who never heard the gospel. Is it fair if they never heard and given a chance to choose and died without Christ? Bible is not very clear but I'm sure God has His way to reach out to them. I also learned that if a child died and was too young to make a decision for Christ, his spirit will go back to God who gives it which means the child is not held accountable. There is also a 1000 years reign after the rapture and I understand that the people will be given a chance to choose Christ. All these teachings are from various sources so please don't :spank: :rant: I'm just repeating what I've read and learnt. Everybody has their own interpretation of the bible and what they think is God's teachings. That's why so many different denominations. I think as a Christian my priority is to live a life that glorifies Christ. No point arguing over different doctrines. He is God and I'm not. When we go to heaven then we will fully understand what God's plan is.

1 Cor 13 v 8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Somebody pls correct me if I am wrong. :salute: