Asia spending billions on tutors: study

[buds]

verykiasu2010:

Funz:

[quote=\"BeContented\"]Looks like any thread that buds patronize, she has the power to turn it into notti corner when u least expected it. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Least expected? Nah, you can most certainly expect that it be turned into a notti corner like thread.

because teachers don't teach :evil:[/quote]Wah-leow u! But... this is beyond hilarious!

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Ehek hemmmm ...

Teachers don't teach but buds always does... :celebrate:

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[ChiefKiasu]

While thought provoking, this thread can do without the inflammatory comments directed at posters. Please be reminded that we need to focus on the issue, and not the people making the issue. If everyone is always right, then there will be no need for discussion, and no need for opinions.


The difficulty of this thread is the diversity of the issues being discussed. I believe the discussion has run its course. To harvest, I have summarized the different topics and views in the following section. Please review and let me know if there is anything else to add. I will clean it up and post this as a poll on the main page. That would give a quantitive indication of the opinions of people on the issues, which provides an insight as to what people really think of these issues. We can then highlight to MOE if there is a need.

1) Is tuition evil?
1a) Yes, tuition increases social-divide which disadvantages the less well-off into a dangerous vicious cycle
1b) No, tuition levels the playing field for all social sectors
1c) Yes, the commercialisation of pre- and primary school education increases stress, makes parents more gancheong and kiasu, and promotes result-oriented culture detrimental to \"learning for the sake of learning\"
1d) No, tuition is needed to help weaker students who may otherwise fail the subject, especially when parents do not have the capability of teaching their kids themselves

2) Whose fault is it that standards are high?
2a) Kiasu parents send kids to tuition who becomes smarter so MOE has to increase standards to maintain its bell curve for identifying the best students for the best secondary schools, or
2b) MOE has kept pushing the envelope of high academic standards to maintain its long-term objectives of a powerful, thinking workforce that can sustain our economy
2c) Nobody's fault

3) Tuition needs to be regulated
3a) No. We become a nanny state
3b) Yes. To improve quality and accountability

4) Tuition is necessary because school are not effective.
4a) Yes, school teachers today are generally weaker and reliant on external help provided by parents or outsourced to tuition
4b) Yes, school teachers cannot properly manage large class sizes
4c) No, it is because parents are kiasu. Schools are doing fine providing sufficient knowledge and training
4d) No, but it is because schools are teaching too much too fast trying to keep up with expected MOE standards, at rates faster than most children can absorb

5) School teachers should be banned from offering private tuition
5a) Yes, tutoring will make them lose focus and interest in their FT jobs, creating vicious cycle where tuition is always needed
5b) No, banning school teachers will only drive the trade underground. If there is demand, there will always be supply. Better to tolerate and control.

[buds]

You're not Chief for nothin'..


A poll would be good too.

[jedamum]

buds:

You're not Chief for nothin'..


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[autumnbronze]

:thankyou: Chief!!!

[oxyleo]

Thank you a million times, Chief Kiasu!

[limlim]

verykiasu2010:

because teachers don't teach :evil:

Hence buds is teaching us.. :evil:

[limlim]

FQW:

schweppes:

after the heat , she's gotta spread some lurrve :love:

Why I read that as larva? Must be the heat ...

larva like to hide in buds..?

[limlim]

ChiefKiasu:

2b) MOE has kept pushing the envelope of high academic standards to maintain its long-term objectives of a powerful, thinking workforce that can sustain our economy

I always wanted to say this.. now is the opportunity.... :evil:

If MOE wants to raise the bar, it is absolutely fine, provided that they have the resources, capability and the will, to raise the platform for ALL kids.

BASC for al kids, PCF kindy education with the necessary skills etc..


And not cause some kids to be disadvantaged, just bcoz their parents cannot afford or don't know how to, get them a pricey stepping stone, to help them reach for the bar that was raised again, and again. Also wouldn't it also be extraneous burden on the kids to have to carry a heavy stepping stone with them at such a young age? even if the parents can afford it.

The higher the bar, the thicker the stepping stone, the heavier it is.

[janet88]

limlim:

ChiefKiasu:

2b) MOE has kept pushing the envelope of high academic standards to maintain its long-term objectives of a powerful, thinking workforce that can sustain our economy

And not cause some kids to be disadvantaged, just bcoz their parents cannot afford or don't know how to, get them a pricey stepping stone, to help them reach for the bar that was raised again, and again. Also wouldn't it also be extraneous burden on the kids to have to carry a heavy stepping stone with them at such a young age? even if the parents can afford it.

The higher the bar, the thicker the stepping stone, the heavier it is.

I would like to add this. Not many kids can reach for the bar...just when they are close to do so, the bar is raised again because kids at the top have touched the bar.