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[Imami]

[quote=\"Mychildren]Now, I understand, its really about what is our expectation, not what the children really need to have. [/quote]


well said

[tutormum]

I usually check which schools my students are from not cos I only take atas students. That will enable me to gauge the abilities of the child and expectations from their schools. Students from branded schools will need more help to meet their schools' standard. Students from neighbourhood schools will need more explicit teaching and guidance to handle basic concepts. There is a difference in standards whether you accept it or not. If the gap is too big, some students will be bored while others will be struggling.


Also, knowing which schools the students are from, I will know what worksheets to prepare for them and plan my lessons according to what they would have learnt or not learnt in their own schools. I know which schools use which assessment books and won't want them to do exactly what their schools are doing.

There is no discrimination on my part cos in the end I would have forgotten which students are from which schools.

I have a father who insisted that I put his son in the HA class cos his son was from the best class in his school. Later, I realised that his school was one of the bottom in Singapore. :roll: :faint: Moreover, his son was not able to follow my lesson cos he was inattentive not to mention that he was weak compared to the other students. I have a girl who readily go to the LA class and managed to move up to the HA class after her grades shown good progress.

As a tutor, my main responsibility is to make sure that students show improvements in their grades and do well for their PSLE. If a student has been an A student all along and comes for tuition to remain competitive and did well, honestly there's nothing for me to boast. However, when a student who failed all along but did well (beyond his/her ability), that's something for me to boast of. :boogie: :boogie:

[Imami]

fightingmom:

limlim:

[quote=\"Imami\"]

However, I wonder why the need to ask about the child's school and the class? Sterotyping here, isn't it? If my child is from atas school, then got hope. If neighbourhood school, no need to bother?

Maybe to allow them to haolian and say \"So & So from Atas So & So School's Atas So & So Class Attended our classes\".. and print BIG BIG in advertisements..

if not for advertisement purposes, I don't see the need to ask for the school. What to evaluate standard, just take a test. Period.

It could just be data collection so that the business head knows which school most of their kids hail from and from there plan their next branch location ? Expansion ... [/quote]then address shd do the job. Not all students stay near the schools they attend.

[KSP]

Imami:

Mychildren:

Now, I understand, its really about what is our expectation, not what the children really need to have.

well said

at the end of the day parents are the ones paying for it.....

[Imami]

KSP:

I feel it is perfectly acceptable to ask for the child's background. So far i have made enquiries at 3 reputable Maths tuition centres. All asked for dd's school, level, last SA marks and 1 centre requires dd to sit for a test (i think all know who lah).


From these info they gathered, they can stream the child accordingly and most importantly can track how much improvement after the child has attended their tuition. KPI again....

If they have their own proficiency tests, do you still think it is necessary to ask about the school/class they attend?

[KSP]

Imami:

KSP:

I feel it is perfectly acceptable to ask for the child's background. So far i have made enquiries at 3 reputable Maths tuition centres. All asked for dd's school, level, last SA marks and 1 centre requires dd to sit for a test (i think all know who lah).


From these info they gathered, they can stream the child accordingly and most importantly can track how much improvement after the child has attended their tuition. KPI again....

If they have their own proficiency tests, do you still think it is necessary to ask about the school/class they attend?

i don't think is necessary but i will still give if they ask coz there is nothing to hide...

[Imami]

tutormum:

I usually check which schools my students are from not cos I only take atas students. That will enable me to gauge the abilities of the child and expectations from their schools. Students from branded schools will need more help to meet their schools' standard. Students from neighbourhood schools will need more explicit teaching and guidance to handle basic concepts. There is a difference in standards whether you accept it or not. If the gap is too big, some students will be bored while others will be struggling.


Also, knowing which schools the students are from, I will know what worksheets to prepare for them and plan my lessons according to what they would have learnt or not learnt in their own schools. I know which schools use which assessment books and won't want them to do exactly what their schools are doing.

There is no discrimination on my part cos in the end I would have forgotten which students are from which schools.

I have a father who insisted that I put his son in the HA class cos his son was from the best class in his school. Later, I realised that his school was one of the bottom in Singapore. :roll: :faint: Moreover, his son was not able to follow my lesson cos he was inattentive not to mention that he was weak compared to the other students. I have a girl who readily go to the LA class and managed to move up to the HA class after her grades shown good progress.

As a tutor, my main responsibility is to make sure that students show improvements in their grades and do well for their PSLE. If a student has been an A student all along and comes for tuition to remain competitive and did well, honestly there's nothing for me to boast. However, when a student who failed all along but did well (beyond his/her ability), that's something for me to boast of. :boogie: :boogie:

Hi Tutormum, just curious - you are a pte tutor doing one to one/small group tuition or you work in a tuition centre like TLL/Mindstretcher that kind?

[Sun_2010]

Imami:

Mychildren:

Now, I understand, its really about what is our expectation, not what the children really need to have.

well said

Sorry , I beg to differ. It could be parental expectation, it could be the chids expectation , it could be both.

Why is there the feel that If a child gets 90+ , one should be contented? Why is it being made to seem like it is a crime? It's not a need but a want? Why should a child's desire to excel seem like a want?

There are kids who want to reach out for the stars , they are smart, motivated and willing to work hard. There is a hunger to achieve and they are not easily contented. May be a small portion , but they are there.

So let's not make them feel like they are some pariahs. Reverse elitism

[Mychildren]

I do have a friend who is a degree holder. But now at this age, still complaining about his parents and his colleagues. In fact, in whatever jobs he was in, he was always complaining about how he don't like his colleagues. He was in a reputable company in Singapore before. In the end, he left Singapore and migrated oversea.


I quote this example is that, I would rather my children be happy adults when they grow up instead of been the top 10 or one who win a lot of medals. Of course, they need to know how to make a living to feed themselves and their families. Riches or high achievements does not necessary bring happiness.

Its more important to teach them how to stand up again when meet with setbacks and overcome problems in a cheerful way.

Happen to know someone just past away when his kids are so small to know how to speak in proper sentences. Life is short, learn to treasure what we have. Now, I treating everyday as my last day on earth so that I would use my time wisely. :offtopic:

[Mychildren]

Sun_2010:

Imami:

[quote=\"Mychildren\"]Now, I understand, its really about what is our expectation, not what the children really need to have.

well said

Sorry , I beg to differ. It could be parental expectation, it could be the chids expectation , it could be both.

Why is there the feel that If a child gets 90+ , one should be contented? Why is it being made to seem like it is a crime? It's not a need but a want? Why should a child's desire to excel seem like a want?

There are kids who want to reach out for the stars , they are smart, motivated and willing to work hard. There is a hunger to achieve and they are not easily contented. May be a small portion , but they are there.

So let's not make them feel like they are some pariahs. Reverse elitism [/quote]Sun_2010, its all right, to have different view. Its not a crime. I never said that. If the child is happy with it, go ahead, I encourage. I do know a girl who is like that hungry for knowledge but her family could not give her tuition for every subjects as their family income need to be share with her brother's tuition whose results not so good.

So no worries, every person see things at a different angles. That's make everyone of us different.