Opinions of the Primary School Registration System
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Imami:
her citizenship is irrelevant.. the kid shd be SC rite?
But I feel that credits should be given to the PRs too. I have a friend who is a PR. She married a sg man and is staying with his family in sg. She can't convert to singaporean because of some family issue back in her Indonesian home. Something like if she convert, she cannot own any property in indonesia. As she is the only child, she would need to takeover the property when her parents pass on. -
Imami:
Thanks dorisp. I so scare Kenna flamed and stoned.... For speaking my view.
kena flame so be it lor.. at least no one calls you cockroach.... juz bcoz the views differ..
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Blessedwife:
What is \"right\" is highly subjective..
Cannot say PR taken up rate is not significant so we just open one eye and close one eye. What is right is right and what is wrong we must change. If u experience balloting before you will then know that even ONE vacancy makes a big difference to all parents. Some school went into balloting just because of that ONE vacancy exceeded.limlim:
Not 2C lah.. that is too much.. Let the PRs have a go at 2C..
Afterall, the number isn't that significant.. The seats taken by 2A to 2B far outweighs those taken by PRs at 2C.
Don't forget, at 2C, All SCs are admitted first before PRs.
That is already significant priority already.
If MOE were to put SC priority before PR throughout registration can you imagine so many more SC parents and their kids can succeed to get into their preferred school within 1km, 1-2km and even for those out of 2km.
There will be lesser disappointed SC parents in KS forum.
I am a Singaporean so my main concern is for our own Singaporean friends after which then our PR friends. Isn't this what our fellow Singaporeans want our garmen to do?
Again, I repeat, SC ALREADY have absolute priority over PR within a phase. And I agree this is the correct direction.
They have a choice. If they give up their chance, and it is picked up by a PR, then, why blame the PRs? Why don't they zero in on THAT school from the start and not take the risk at the other school's ballot? They would have gotten the place.
I am SC, and I feel the priority within a phase is good. However, I don't feel pushing PRs to P2D is \"right\".
Give priority to SC is fine, but not discriminate against the PRs until they are left with, not only the \"leftover\", but the \"leftover of the leftover\".
If the govt want to promote SG as education hub, extreme discrimination isn't the way to go..
Please read again your comment in blue. As of now, SC already have absolute priority within a phase. And they do enjoy absolute proiority over PRs at the preferred school if they had applied at P2C. -
How about this? Let parents fill in three choices. Then those parents who are not eligible to participate for firstachoic school ie out of distance bracket for ballot, will be allocated second choice school. Parents can also fill in yes or no as to whether they want to participate in ballot if they are eligible, or forgo ballot option and accept second option school. With that, parents who would like to ballot will really think about whether they want to ballot or risk their second choice school taken automatically by those who opted not to ballot or not eligible for ballot.
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limlim:
Chances are one might be termed \"sore eyes\" and \"vast interest\"......Imami:
Thanks dorisp. I so scare Kenna flamed and stoned.... For speaking my view.
kena flame so be it lor.. at least no one calls you cockroach.... juz bcoz the views differ..
:evil:
Just joking.
IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system.
We have to accept that opinions do differ and to agree to disagree wherever possible.
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phtthp:
Actually thought of that also... but thinking further, it might not really work as the students from these \"good\" schools are normally more well to do thus most of them are either going for enrichment lessons outside or having more tution so they are \"smarter\". So if smarter students will definitely produced better results.MOE can consider rotate current Subject Head (for 4 subjects) every 3 to 5 years from each of the branded hot, popular school to the average neighbourhood schools, in order to help establish common best practices methodology implementation across all schools in SG.
example:
if MGS (Blackmore drive) Subject Head in languages are so strong in getting entire school to gain impressive Quality passes in English at 91.2 % and Chinese at 94.2 %, can consider post them to neighbourhood schools that are weak in lanaguages, every 3 to 5 years.
http://www.mgs.sch.edu.sg//article/358#top
MOE can also consider invite and hire semi retired / retired Principals, Vice Principals, Subject Head(s) of Department with many years of rich, extensive experience from hot, popular schools back to schools to work on contract assignment basis - plant them in the average neighbourhood primary schools, tap upon their rich valuable experience(s) to hand hold and train the younger, junior inexperienced teachers from average neigbhourhood schools the best Practices motivational teaching method(s) cum curriculum, in the 4 subjects.
When the HOD set the teaching methods or material from these popular schools, they are \"cater\" to these smarter students. Therefore, the HOD are transferred to another a normal school that do not have so many of these \"smarter\" students, the methods or material may not work.
What do you think.
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bongbong:
nothing much will ever happen, whether rotate the teachers or the headsphtthp:
MOE can consider rotate current Subject Head (for 4 subjects) every 3 to 5 years from each of the branded hot, popular school to the average neighbourhood schools, in order to help establish common best practices methodology implementation across all schools in SG.
example:
if MGS (Blackmore drive) Subject Head in languages are so strong in getting entire school to gain impressive Quality passes in English at 91.2 % and Chinese at 94.2 %, can consider post them to neighbourhood schools that are weak in lanaguages, every 3 to 5 years.
http://www.mgs.sch.edu.sg//article/358#top
MOE can also consider invite and hire semi retired / retired Principals, Vice Principals, Subject Head(s) of Department with many years of rich, extensive experience from hot, popular schools back to schools to work on contract assignment basis - plant them in the average neighbourhood primary schools, tap upon their rich valuable experience(s) to hand hold and train the younger, junior inexperienced teachers from average neigbhourhood schools the best Practices motivational teaching method(s) cum curriculum, in the 4 subjects.
ya, this is really a good suggestion. so, standard of all schools can be equal and we parents are willing to just register our kids in any schools around our area.
1. not all students are equally clever. normal distribution of a cohort size of 40k will still be in play. some will be lazy, some will be playful, some will be forgetful and blame the teachers never teach etc etc, some need one time instruction and get it, some need 10 times explanation and still don't get it
2. principal from popular school can TRY to implement the system as in the popular school but the existing teachers in the neighbourhood school may not cooperate, they will not have the same management board, they have their own idea of doing things, they are not robot that could not be programed with the same set of instructions. Their PTA also are in different level of intensity in participation
3. systems and processes take time to work even if accepted, though not impossible. -
It takes a combination of leader, management, heads, teachers, system, processes and culture to work together before a school can see the desired results. A mere rotation of HOD will not help at all. A good and effective HOD who get posted to another school may not be as good and effective because the management and teachers do not see eye to eye with the HOD. The poor HOD will get so frustrated and may leave the teaching profession altogether.
This explain why when there is a change of leader, there will be staff turnover. This happens in schools too, not just commercial organisations. -
dorisp:
We may speak for the better of the system.. but some pple when they feel their interest are threatened, they may turn aggressive and resort to personal attacks. (Not in this thread).
IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system. -
limlim:
Hahaha
We may speak for the better of the system.. but some pple when they feel their interest are threatened, they may turn aggressive and resort to personal attacks.dorisp:
IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system.
....Yes, we've been there alright!
I agree with you and I totally could comprehend their feelings as I've tried to put myself in the shoes of the alumni.......but... :please:
We survived!!! :evil:
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