Opinions of the Primary School Registration System

[verykiasu2010]

bongbong:

phtthp:

MOE can consider rotate current Subject Head (for 4 subjects) every 3 to 5 years from each of the branded hot, popular school to the average neighbourhood schools, in order to help establish common best practices methodology implementation across all schools in SG.


example:
if MGS (Blackmore drive) Subject Head in languages are so strong in getting entire school to gain impressive Quality passes in English at 91.2 % and Chinese at 94.2 %, can consider post them to neighbourhood schools that are weak in lanaguages, every 3 to 5 years.

http://www.mgs.sch.edu.sg//article/358#top

MOE can also consider invite and hire semi retired / retired Principals, Vice Principals, Subject Head(s) of Department with many years of rich, extensive experience from hot, popular schools back to schools to work on contract assignment basis - plant them in the average neighbourhood primary schools, tap upon their rich valuable experience(s) to hand hold and train the younger, junior inexperienced teachers from average neigbhourhood schools the best Practices motivational teaching method(s) cum curriculum, in the 4 subjects.

ya, this is really a good suggestion. so, standard of all schools can be equal and we parents are willing to just register our kids in any schools around our area.

nothing much will ever happen, whether rotate the teachers or the heads

1. not all students are equally clever. normal distribution of a cohort size of 40k will still be in play. some will be lazy, some will be playful, some will be forgetful and blame the teachers never teach etc etc, some need one time instruction and get it, some need 10 times explanation and still don't get it

2. principal from popular school can TRY to implement the system as in the popular school but the existing teachers in the neighbourhood school may not cooperate, they will not have the same management board, they have their own idea of doing things, they are not robot that could not be programed with the same set of instructions. Their PTA also are in different level of intensity in participation

3. systems and processes take time to work even if accepted, though not impossible.

[alng]

It takes a combination of leader, management, heads, teachers, system, processes and culture to work together before a school can see the desired results. A mere rotation of HOD will not help at all. A good and effective HOD who get posted to another school may not be as good and effective because the management and teachers do not see eye to eye with the HOD. The poor HOD will get so frustrated and may leave the teaching profession altogether.


This explain why when there is a change of leader, there will be staff turnover. This happens in schools too, not just commercial organisations.

[limlim]

dorisp:

IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system.

We may speak for the better of the system.. but some pple when they feel their interest are threatened, they may turn aggressive and resort to personal attacks. (Not in this thread).

[dorisp]

limlim:

dorisp:

IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system.

We may speak for the better of the system.. but some pple when they feel their interest are threatened, they may turn aggressive and resort to personal attacks.

Hahaha ....Yes, we've been there alright!

I agree with you and I totally could comprehend their feelings as I've tried to put myself in the shoes of the alumni.......but... :please:

We survived!!! :evil:

:hi5:

[riauap]

limlim:

Blessedwife:

[quote=\"limlim\"]Not 2C lah.. that is too much.. Let the PRs have a go at 2C..


Afterall, the number isn't that significant.. The seats taken by 2A to 2B far outweighs those taken by PRs at 2C.

Don't forget, at 2C, All SCs are admitted first before PRs.

That is already significant priority already.

Cannot say PR taken up rate is not significant so we just open one eye and close one eye. What is right is right and what is wrong we must change. If u experience balloting before you will then know that even ONE vacancy makes a big difference to all parents. Some school went into balloting just because of that ONE vacancy exceeded.

If MOE were to put SC priority before PR throughout registration can you imagine so many more SC parents and their kids can succeed to get into their preferred school within 1km, 1-2km and even for those out of 2km.

There will be lesser disappointed SC parents in KS forum.

I am a Singaporean so my main concern is for our own Singaporean friends after which then our PR friends. Isn't this what our fellow Singaporeans want our garmen to do?

What is \"right\" is highly subjective..

Again, I repeat, SC ALREADY have absolute priority over PR within a phase. And I agree this is the correct direction.

They have a choice. If they give up their chance, and it is picked up by a PR, then, why blame the PRs? Why don't they zero in on THAT school from the start and not take the risk at the other school's ballot? They would have gotten the place.

I am SC, and I feel the priority within a phase is good. However, I don't feel pushing PRs to P2D is \"right\".

Give priority to SC is fine, but not discriminate against the PRs until they are left with, not only the \"leftover\", but the \"leftover of the leftover\".

If the govt want to promote SG as education hub, extreme discrimination isn't the way to go..

Please read again your comment in blue. As of now, SC already have absolute priority within a phase. And they do enjoy absolute proiority over PRs at the preferred school if they had applied at P2C.[/quote]Are u saying, singapore guy like me should waste 30 months of our life to help PR children compete against my children in Singapore primary school. Do u know we were constantly threatened to be jailed should we try to evade our duty. Do u know many PR enjoy the best of Singapore education, some even get scholarships, but they gave up their PR or didn't return to Singapore.

Do u know Singapore is the only few countries where foreigners can work in our civil services or our GLC companies.

[rains]

limlim:

dorisp:

IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system.

We may speak for the better of the system.. but some pple when they feel their interest are threatened, they may turn aggressive and resort to personal attacks.

Haha, how ironical that that's what I thought of you - turning aggressive and resort to personal attacks in another thread. Don't worry. I'm not stalking you. Just so happen to peek into this thread and saw your reply echoing mine responding to yours.

[bongbong]

if rotating HOD doesn’t work, what is the reason behind the continuous success of certain schools against others? for example kids at bukit timah areas, so many branded school except bukit timah primary. those that cannot success in p2c supplementary or phase 2c will definitely go to bt timah primary, it cannot be all those that go to bt timah primary doesn’t go for enrichment and lessons outside. and it cannot be so coincidence those that fail on the balloting are the not so smart kids. why MOE keeps letting all these schools continue to be "not branded". if the gap of academy achievement is still far amongst the schools, there must be a reason behind it.

[limlim]

rains:

limlim:

[quote=\"dorisp\"]

IMHO, nothing else should matter if you are genuine and are in the discussion for the better of the topic or system.

We may speak for the better of the system.. but some pple when they feel their interest are threatened, they may turn aggressive and resort to personal attacks.

Haha, how ironical that that's what I thought of you - turning aggressive and resort to personal attacks in another thread. Don't worry. I'm not stalking you. Just so happen to peek into this thread and saw your reply echoing mine responding to yours.[/quote]You interpret it as personal attack, because I used the word \"you\" (which at that time of typing I didn't realise it was inappropriate bcoz I didn't expect you not being SC). I could replace the word \"you\" with \"one(someone)\", to reflect a general comment in relation to topic and not to individual.

Why don't you ask the other members of the forum whether they read it as a general comment in relation to topic or a personal attack?

And at which point did I turned aggressive?

And why should I? I am not affected by any of the policies in relation to P1 registration.

[verykiasu2010]

alng:

It takes a combination of leader, management, heads, teachers, system, processes and culture to work together before a school can see the desired results. A mere rotation of HOD will not help at all. A good and effective HOD who get posted to another school may not be as good and effective because the management and teachers do not see eye to eye with the HOD. The poor HOD will get so frustrated and may leave the teaching profession altogether.


This explain why when there is a change of leader, there will be staff turnover. This happens in schools too, not just commercial organisations.

that is right

[limlim]

riauap:

Are u saying, singapore guy like me should waste 30 months of our life to help PR children compete against my children in Singapore primary school. Do u know we were constantly threatened to be jailed should we try to evade our duty. Do u know many PR enjoy the best of Singapore education, some even get scholarships, but they gave up their PR or didn't return to Singapore.

I served NS and as at now, still have to go for IPPT every year, not like many of my peers who MR long long ago even thou they are years younger than me. Ya, you heard it right, younger than me but MR years before me.

As of now, SC does have priority within a phase. and I totally support it.

They just have to make the right choice at P2C.

If there is a P2D, and certain school became like concentration camp for PR kids.. do you feel it is good for the nation..? is it really good..?

But I agree PR should not enjoy P2A priority. That, is really not desirable.