Is GEP really necessary?
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2ppaamm:
NUSH ?
Kaypoh a bit... which school har? :evil:cherryc:
Our PM congratulated LJ in his fb but not sure why he didn't ask his ka-kia why LJ not in GEP and how on earth he became world champ !
Yes, I have heard about real Science/ Maths geniuses in one school here only focus on solving the difficult Sci/Maths questions even if they are attending English or ANY class. -
ruohoo97:
Oh, 2ppaamm, why not you write a book, about educational system, educational experience, gifted or not-so-gifted so on, I am sure it will be very popular.
I know this is a cheap excuse, but I have no time. Or better excuse... I have got things I want to spend more time on. Have some papers to write, have my patents that I want to exploit, have some kids I need to mother to, have this husband I want to make this home nice, nice to, have this boy going NS, have these girls wanting to become the next Lee Ka Shing, have the littlest ones I have to make lunch boxes for everyday, have meals to cook 4 times a day, have new recipes to try everyday, have house to sweep and laundry to do, have a growing bunch of young adult students whom I want to nurture, have a bunch of colleagues I need to add value to... also have an absolutely fantastic boss to be accountable to. Haha.
So maybe when one or two of those tasks are done, I will write something. Meanwhile, KSP is simply great! I know my voice will not be heard and my opinions will not matter in higher places, already tried those. They are too good for my suggestions, opinions or experiences, so I know my place, and am simply happy with whatever small audience I manage to draw. :imcool: -
2ppaamm:
You know, I recently arrived at the same conclusion too!!!
Lim Jeck is one example of those that I mentioned time and again that GEP should be reaching out to if we are looking for talents to nurture. But lately, I have come to realize that perhaps the GEP is not there to nurture those with talents or those who are gifted and have a real chance of winning like a Nobel Prize or put our little red dot some where. GEP, it seems, is there to nurture a bunch of high ability kids who will be good administrators.
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Actually, I think our taxi drivers came to that conclusion some time ago
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Nebbermind:
It has become more and more obvious and blatant, isn't it? It took me so long to realize, after spending so much time running around, thinking GEP is there to nurture the gifted, thinking there is a real intention give the gifted kids academic adventure. What a fool I was! And now, I know where not to look and therefore I now know I am on my own. This is a great revelation, and I am thankful for this, and I suddenly find freedom and liberation, instead of being bogged down by the GEP burden, just because they said my kid is gifted. Yes, to me, having a child in GEP was a burden, just that he loved his friends so much, I couldn't have possibly told him so.
You know, I recently arrived at the same conclusion too!!!2ppaamm:
Lim Jeck is one example of those that I mentioned time and again that GEP should be reaching out to if we are looking for talents to nurture. But lately, I have come to realize that perhaps the GEP is not there to nurture those with talents or those who are gifted and have a real chance of winning like a Nobel Prize or put our little red dot some where. GEP, it seems, is there to nurture a bunch of high ability kids who will be good administrators.
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2ppaamm:
......Then, put in some resources to single out a Lim Jeck or literature equivalent, and instead of supplementary classes, give them some interesting enrichment to raise them to the level they deserve. Putting Lim Jeck in GEP would be a waste of time and talent, as he will have to struggle through the English. Instead, in a regular classroom, which he can do his English and other subjects with his classmates, and then be singled out to do his incredible Math with a volunteer professor or some retired teachers. Much less resources and happier outcome. But this is just me. I am no MOE.
There is a boy fr current batch of P6 GEP who is very gud in Maths.
Besides following d regular GEP curriculum, understand he is also taking additional Maths modules with NUS.
Dis boy was offered a place at NUSH when he was in P5.
There is hope MOE is not entirely blind to talents.
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Laura02:
Actually, I think our taxi drivers came to that conclusion some time ago
Yes of course. And I was told many times as well. But you know, people like me tend to complicate things, we choose to believe the more complicated things we are told, refusing to believe the simple. Yes, taxi drivers were right, things were really quite simple. Why didn't I see that? :stupid: See? You don't need to be gifted or in GEP to be clever. I was the stupid one. -
Way2GO:
It will be great to see if this is the next Lim Jeck. The GEP sorely needs a success story, afterall, they said their GEP selection is NEVER wrong, and a child is NEVER wrongly selected for GEP. At least this is what they told us at the GEP briefing. We shall see if they are EVER wrong. BTW, just by missing ONE child, they would have been wrong in their claim. So sorry to have to say this, but if they are not sure, then they shouldn't have made this claim at the GEP briefing, and if they are not sure of their selection method, then they should not accord so many privileges to GEPpers, at the expense of those who need the facilities and access more.2ppaamm:
......Then, put in some resources to single out a Lim Jeck or literature equivalent, and instead of supplementary classes, give them some interesting enrichment to raise them to the level they deserve. Putting Lim Jeck in GEP would be a waste of time and talent, as he will have to struggle through the English. Instead, in a regular classroom, which he can do his English and other subjects with his classmates, and then be singled out to do his incredible Math with a volunteer professor or some retired teachers. Much less resources and happier outcome. But this is just me. I am no MOE.
There is a boy fr current batch of P6 GEP who is very gud in Maths.
Besides following d regular GEP curriculum, understand he is also taking additional Maths modules with NUS.
Dis boy was offered a place at NUSH when he was in P5.
There is hope MOE is not entirely blind to talents.
And, one more point. It was a blessing for Lim Jeck not to be in GEP. His circumstances is unique. If he were in GEP, he would have no time with his parents to work on his love for Math, he would have spent time with his teachers (or rather, tutors) struggling with English. As a mainstreamer, he gets normal work and he gets time to pursue his Math. So everything worked out well for Lim Jeck. So Lim Jeck is where he is BECAUSE (not inspite of) he is not in GEP. But again, not every child has Mathematician parents like the Lims. -
2ppaamm:
It will be great to see if this is the next Lim Jeck. The GEP sorely needs a success story, afterall, they said their GEP selection is NEVER wrong, and a child is NEVER wrongly selected for GEP. At least this is what they told us at the GEP briefing. We shall see if they are EVER wrong. BTW, just by missing ONE child, they would have been wrong in their claim. So sorry to have to say this, but if they are not sure, then they shouldn't have made this claim at the GEP briefing, and if they are not sure of their selection method, then they should not accord so many privileges to GEPpers, at the expense of those who need the facilities and access more.[/quote]I know there were a few kids for further attachment and I do not think GEB needs any success story. Without that, everyone is already trying so hard to get on board(the training and all), why the need for success story? Do you seriously think parents do not sign up because there have been no success stories? :? In fact I think GEB keeps mum about a lot of info for a good reason. I can think of one very good one but I will share this in a few years' time if you can wait.Way2GO:
[quote=\"2ppaamm\"] ......Then, put in some resources to single out a Lim Jeck or literature equivalent, and instead of supplementary classes, give them some interesting enrichment to raise them to the level they deserve. Putting Lim Jeck in GEP would be a waste of time and talent, as he will have to struggle through the English. Instead, in a regular classroom, which he can do his English and other subjects with his classmates, and then be singled out to do his incredible Math with a volunteer professor or some retired teachers. Much less resources and happier outcome. But this is just me. I am no MOE.
There is a boy fr current batch of P6 GEP who is very gud in Maths.
Besides following d regular GEP curriculum, understand he is also taking additional Maths modules with NUS.
Dis boy was offered a place at NUSH when he was in P5.
There is hope MOE is not entirely blind to talents.
The way I look at GEB's claim about never wrong. I can understand why they say that because they have set out the tests to sieve out the definition of the gifted group they want to groom, so it is based on their criterias, how can it be wrong? :? -
Exactly! Their objectives have always been different from what we thought! Everything they told us is just a smokescreen!
Anyway, if LJ doesn't fit into GEP, then he will not fit into a rigid SG system! He's as good as gone when he leaves for some US uni!
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