Why screen kids in P1?
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edtan:
Huh? Is it optional? Sorry... I must be very slow today. I don't understand your thought process. Would you be kind enough to explain?What if MOE make IQ test an optional for P1 kids to take?
This will cause a great stress again to the parents...... thanks to Chen.
Parents will start to prepare their kids for such IQ test even as early as 4 yrs old and so on.........sometimes no need to broadcast publicly.
If MOE make IQ test at P1 an optional, don't you think you will opt to take the test for the fear this IQ test will be part of the selection critieria in future program. -
Chenonceau:
Huh? Is it optional? Sorry... I must be very slow today. I don't understand your thought process. Would you be kind enough to explain?edtan:
What if MOE make IQ test an optional for P1 kids to take?
This will cause a great stress again to the parents...... thanks to Chen.
Parents will start to prepare their kids for such IQ test even as early as 4 yrs old and so on.........sometimes no need to broadcast publicly.
If MOE make IQ test at P1 an optional, don't you think you will opt to take the test for the fear this IQ test will be part of the selection critieria in future program.
WHAT IF...MOE make it optional after this.
If MOE really need the data, they will make the test an optional to take.
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edtan:
Huh? Is it optional? Sorry... I must be very slow today. I don't understand your thought process. Would you be kind enough to explain?Chenonceau:
[quote=\"edtan\"]What if MOE make IQ test an optional for P1 kids to take?
This will cause a great stress again to the parents...... thanks to Chen.
Parents will start to prepare their kids for such IQ test even as early as 4 yrs old and so on.........sometimes no need to broadcast publicly.
If MOE make IQ test at P1 an optional, don't you think you will opt to take the test for the fear this IQ test will be part of the selection critieria in future program.
WHAT IF...MOE make it optional after this.
If MOE really need the data, they will make the test an optional to take.
Sorry to confuse you.....[/quote]Why would parents be stressed? That's the part I'm not getting. -
Hmmm, right now GEP testing is optional. I know the reasons for testing. Kids who passed GEP goes to GEP, kids who pass 1st round but not second round are offered some enrichment programs.
I'm not stressed.
I'm looking for something in primary school education but doubt I will see the version that I want in my life time or even ever. My dh commented that I'm too idealistic.
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SAHM_TAN:
As we know, even though made known, parents still have a lot of issues with the GEP testing, still a lot of foul play is being cried...Hmmm, right now GEP testing is optional. I know the reasons for testing. Kids who passed GEP goes to GEP, kids who pass 1st round but not second round are offered some enrichment programs.
I'm not stressed.
I'm looking for something in primary school education but doubt I will see the version that I want in my life time or even ever. My dh commented that I'm too idealistic.
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ksi:
Yes there are stressed parents.
As we know, even though made known, parents still have a lot of issues with the GEP testing, still a lot of foul play is being cried...SAHM_TAN:
Hmmm, right now GEP testing is optional. I know the reasons for testing. Kids who passed GEP goes to GEP, kids who pass 1st round but not second round are offered some enrichment programs.
I'm not stressed.
I'm looking for something in primary school education but doubt I will see the version that I want in my life time or even ever. My dh commented that I'm too idealistic.
Still I like to raised my hands (both) and say that I'm not stressed by the GEP.
Pple can have the stressers of their choice. My choice of stress is not this
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ah chey..verdict out ah....
i just got a chance to read this thread today...and as i was reading...a conspiracy light lit up...
Maybe at P1 first checkpoint on IQ, then at P3, second checkpoint... after second checkpoint, can determine if our lower primary Education can improve IQ or not.. If can, how much, and effectiveness...bla bla bla..
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SAHM_TAN:
Yes there are stressed parents.
As we know, even though made known, parents still have a lot of issues with the GEP testing, still a lot of foul play is being cried...ksi:
[quote=\"SAHM_TAN\"]Hmmm, right now GEP testing is optional. I know the reasons for testing. Kids who passed GEP goes to GEP, kids who pass 1st round but not second round are offered some enrichment programs.
I'm not stressed.
I'm looking for something in primary school education but doubt I will see the version that I want in my life time or even ever. My dh commented that I'm too idealistic.
Still I like to raised my hands (both) and say that I'm not stressed by the GEP.
Pple can have the stressers of their choice. My choice of stress is not this[/quote]It would be good to know if you represent the majority of parents.
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RRMummy:
Plenty of studies can be done with the P1 IQ data. What you suggest is one such. They could also relate to A level results... access to Ivy League... earnings... marital satisfaction in future. IQ doesn't change over time. At least, theoretically, it isn't supposed to.ah chey..verdict out ah....
i just got a chance to read this thread today...and as i was reading...a conspiracy light lit up...
Maybe at P1 first checkpoint on IQ, then at P3, second checkpoint... after second checkpoint, can determine if our lower primary Education can improve IQ or not.. If can, how much, and effectiveness...bla bla bla..
:siam:
It could even be used to assess school effectiveness by relating to PSLE results. If a group of kids of high IQ in School A scores significantly lower than kids of same IQ from ANOTHER School B, then School B is a poorer school since kids of the same IQ should score about the same at PSLE. This would be a perfect reason that would get me to accept P1 IQ testing... however, this means that ONLY the researchers access the data.
It is NOT open data for Teacher reference so as to prevent the Pygmalion effect and Teacher Bias. -
ksi:
I do think majority of the parents out there are not that stressed up by GEP. So far, majority of my friends could not be bothered about GEP. The few whose kids made in through were more concerned about the need to change schools and logistics if the kid wants to pursue that path.
It would be good to know if you represent the majority of parents.
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