MOE not tweaking P1 registration
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rains:
It's love. Pure and simple. The smells ... the old bench... that wall. You wanna share your childhood with your children. DD went to my alma mater. It's as simple as love.
I hope I don't sound rude but you sound like you don't have an alma mater, because you don't seem to understand the sentiment of an alumni.limlim:
You sure......?
Everything equal except distance and affection. You choose affection over distance? I guess not many would do that.
for the very rich, maybe anywhere in SG not much difference to them.
But for most middle range families, the larger distance not only translates to inconvenience, but logistics, cost (petrol, sch bus e.t.c.), effort, traveling time etc..
well.. anyway.. it's their choice..
If later any alumni rant about costly sch bus, kid wake up at 5.30am etc go home very late etc..... maybe I can arm chio....... :evil:
A few other ksparents have already testified to the sentiment as per your question earlier on, and theirs appear to be even stronger because they stated that they would still choose their alma mater even when the school near home is much better than their alma mater.
There are other considerations apart from proximity for some of us. I personally considered the peers' influence and the probability of getting a place at either school when I chose the alma mater over a popular school near home.
And I don't think people who choose alma mater despite long distance would complain that much about the need to wake up early because they already know the implication before they send their kids there. My kid for one woke up at 5am for more than 5 years just to attend her dad's alma mater and I never once doubted that I would send her there if i were presented with the dilemma all over again. -
Chenonceau:
Right! Me too. Such a simple reason. :grphug: Waking up early is never a problem for my kids - the fact is they want to be early in school - before 7 am to bond with their friends or play soccer ... all I did was to inculcate a good sleep routine from young to ensure they sleep and wake up early & have 9-10 hrs of sleep daily. :snooze:rains:
And I don't think people who choose alma mater despite long distance would complain that much about the need to wake up early because they already know the implication before they send their kids there. My kid for one woke up at 5am for more than 5 years just to attend her dad's alma mater and I never once doubted that I would send her there if i were presented with the dilemma all over again.
It's love. Pure and simple. The smells ... the old bench... that wall. You wanna share your childhood with your children. DD went to my alma mater. It's as simple as love. -
Chenonceau:
Oh! I still thought u did your pri school elsewhere!!
It's love. Pure and simple. The smells ... the old bench... that wall. You wanna share your childhood with your children. DD went to my alma mater. It's as simple as love.
Anyways, :hi5: -
Nebbermind:
I did. Why?
Oh! I still thought u did your pri school elsewhere!!Chenonceau:
It's love. Pure and simple. The smells ... the old bench... that wall. You wanna share your childhood with your children. DD went to my alma mater. It's as simple as love.
Anyways, :hi5: -
Chenonceau:
Totally agree with the highlighted part. :goodpost:
For most of us who complained, we knew that fixes will come too late for our kids. I am happy as long as the grandkids inherit a better system... less elitist... less judgmental... more forgiving of poor results at a single IQ test. Mainstream deserves a decent education too... and it should be decent for everyone, not just lucky ones in good schools. I have time to be patient. My timeframe is the grandkids. Those with kids in lower primary usually don't complain.
Now... they may not have to. -
Just throw my 2cents worth, I think it is also something to do with the background of the students la. These two schools r comparable in all aspects including the parents background. If I'm not wrong, many parents r tai tai or successful professional! Many tai tai r having medical deg, law deg, post-grade deg,etc n have all the means to coach their dc, be it financially or their own self capability.
I don't know how u can learn from these schools, how to make all schools like them to have these advantages
I better :siam: before
Nebbermind:
But what about the non-GEP schools? Maybe MGS/SCGS parents can enlightening if there's any hard testing in such schools? My impression is that they quite relax one.Chenonceau:
One possibility is to test hard and so mainstream parents get tuition or teach at home? Another reason could be the flow over of GEP materials into high ability classes in GEP schools?
Again... I think it's good that GEP has all this. No one is asking to take all this away from GEP. However, I still don't understand how HSK can say that small classes don't matter to quality teaching when GEP and LSP have small classes. -
Nebbermind:
It's something very personal...and it feels good as I walked down that path again...just yesterday, I was in the school attending daughter's dance performance. Old memories.
Oh! I still thought u did your pri school elsewhere!!Chenonceau:
It's love. Pure and simple. The smells ... the old bench... that wall. You wanna share your childhood with your children. DD went to my alma mater. It's as simple as love.
Anyways, :hi5: -
rains:
I don't get what you mean. You're suspecting that I never attended primary school?
I hope I don't sound rude but you sound like you don't have an alma mater, because you don't seem to understand the sentiment of an alumni.
It is clear that almost everyone have alma mater, but not everyone, or I would dare say, many, do not care. Look at the take up rate for P2A for those schools with vacancies for 2CS. A few KSP member does not represent the full picture. -
Nebbermind lah!
We are just sharing why we feel so much for our alma mater. If u think we are sentimental fools :siao: , so be it lor. Can still be friends, ya? -
Wow 14 pages! I’ve not read most of the earlier posts but feel compelled to pen my thoughts.
I am really happy with the announcement of the scrapping of secondary school banding.
http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/news/news/1313196/Parents_schools_cheer_scrapping_of_secondary_school_banding.html
It is also a step in the right direction to abolish mid-year screening of P1 pupils.
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Edvantage/Story/A1Story20120911-370890.html
MOE should also be applauded on concentrating its efforts on providing good schools in different neighbourhoods now that the P1 registration for next year intake is just over.
http://www.edvantage.com.sg/edvantage/features/hottopics/1309404/MOE_not_tweaking_P1_registration_formula.html
However, I feel the P1 registration should be given a final tweak .
If the system remains status quo, no cap on vacancies and the reality is, in practice, resulting in no limit on distance for earlier phases(correct up to this year’s intake because the system takes in all without a need for ballot from phase 1 to 2a) runs against the grain for children to study near their home.
To me, the counter argument on tweaking it has its “impact on property prices which may force out parents who cannot afford to live in the affected areas” is flawed.
Some parents had also argued tirelessly on \"my child is an early bird, I drive my child to school or my child has no problem with travelling long distance..... to try to persuade on keeping the current phases intact.
My take is, if your child has no problem, it does not mean another child who got balloted out from the school right across her house will not have problem in waking up early or travelling long distance and who may not be privileged to be driven to school.
Scenario 1
A PR child gets into Tao Nan under Phase 1 because his older sibling (who used to study in a school in Woodlands got transferred there after he qualified under GEP) is studying there. He lives across the causeway and will cross custom daily to get to school.
On the other hand, a SC family who lives within 1km, had been clan members with SHHK since grandpa’s time (grandpa sent daddy to a nearby school instead of Tao Nan because they were not staying near the school at that time) whose child could not get into Tao Nan by ballot.
Scenario 2
A non-Christian child who lives in Sentosa Cove (now this is a life-style choice, opting for the exclusiveness and views, what impact on property prices?) who is privileged to be chauffeured to her school got in because her mother is an alumni of MGS.
On the other hand, a Methodist child who lives within walking distance of MGS has to travel further to her school because she has no luck at the ballot box.
Not introducing Phase D and allowing PR’s participation in P2C would disadvantage the less educated /less well-to-do populace. (See my earlier post on Phase 2C and 2D http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18535&start=1460 and my argument for the introduction of P2D at the 2nd half of the page starting from I'm not as optimistic... http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18535&start=1500)
Scenario 3
A PR with a SAHM got into a neighbourhood school because his mother is more educated and has the time to monitor the registration numbers and go down to make a last minute switch so he ended up with another decent school that is not too far from home.
A SC child whose parents have to slog to feed 3 generations got balloted out from the school across her house. Her parents have scant knowledge of the whole registration process and cannot afford to take time off to make a last minute switch. If there is a Phase 2C just for Singaporeans, she will not end up in a school so far away from her house.
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