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    • corneyAmberC Offline
      corneyAmber
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      jedamum:
      Wait wait wait.

      If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?
      Possibly and there is a differentiation between enrichment and tuition but no one is really listening.... šŸ˜‚ Jedamum you are listening!!!!! *Bravo*

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        tutormum
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        ksi:
        jedamum:

        Wait wait wait.

        If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?

        Possibly and there is a differentiation between enrichment and tuition but no one is really listening.... šŸ˜‚ Jedamum you are listening!!!!! *Bravo*

        Enrichment classes are those beyond the school textbooks such as dancing, music and swimming. These students needed tuition cos they are not disciplined to study on their own. More like needing a nanny than a tutor. :roll: This would means that the tutor would be sitting there looking on as the student does his work. :slapshead: :slapshead:

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          Lynn2010
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          jedamum:


          Hahaha.... this model ans is quite true at work place too.

          I remember a colleague was asked to write a report. He came over to me ask if i've done this previously and if i have a template!!! NUS grad!
          This does not apply in every field. I was told by my bosses not to reinvent the wheel. The company has resources, experienced staff, past records a plenty. Don't be a smart alec to try to draft your ownsreportreport. Even something new can derive from templates of similar reports.
          So to say that kids relying on external notes will will turn out to be poor worker is not totally true. As to some, this is a smart way to learn faster. Mho.[/quote]

          True if one used it as a reference. I know him, he just want to re-use, change a few words. Hmmmm.... may be I'm the type i want to be a little different, more creative. I may borrow for reference but will not copy!

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            Mychildren
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            tutormum:
            ksi:

            [quote=\"jedamum\"]Wait wait wait.

            If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?

            Possibly and there is a differentiation between enrichment and tuition but no one is really listening.... šŸ˜‚ Jedamum you are listening!!!!! *Bravo*

            Enrichment classes are those beyond the school textbooks such as dancing, music and swimming. These students needed tuition cos they are not disciplined to study on their own. More like needing a nanny than a tutor. :roll: This would means that the tutor would be sitting there looking on as the student does his work. :slapshead: :slapshead:[/quote]Yes, these are enrichment classes (those in blue). Before that my DS has 4 of those including his school CCA, in the end need to take 1 out because of too much homework. Don't scold me, I didn't ask him go for the 4, he want them himself.

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              SAHM_TAN
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              For me tuition is about getting external help on existing school work in the current level that the child is in. Enrichment besides non-academic activities such as dancing, music, sports, etc, I include academics learning beyond school curriculum and child's current level. There are such enrichment activities by MOE for students who are HA and in GEP.


              To summarize the 2 kids' reasons, they use tuition to ensure that they will revise, recap school work, so that will not procrastinate in studying. Of course it was also mentioned that the tutor teach new infor but it's not stated is it advanced infor.

              When I read the article, my take away was that they used tuition to discipline themselves to study. For new infor, I want my kids at an older age to be able to research on their own, on topics that they are interested about.

              I think it's important for a child to go though and learn about the process of thinking. I have no issue if the child wants to buy notes or to use teachers' notes as additional resource but the child must have the thinking skills.

              It's just like there are shoes with Velcro but I still insist that they learn how to tie shoe laces. Or like making ice-cream, there's an easy and more tedious way to do it. I will show them the tedious way before showing them the easier way. It's like I'm torturing my kids :rotflmao:

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              • janet88J Offline
                janet88
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                jedamum:
                Wait wait wait.

                If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?
                Enrichment is different from tuition...bcos it's non-academic.
                My friend's son in a popular school was asked if his tutors coach her son in school hw...if these said students need tuition, doesn't it confirm that tutors ARE hired for the wrong reason? :faint: Are these students implying they need someone to sit beside them so that they can study and get homework done?

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                • corneyAmberC Offline
                  corneyAmber
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                  janet_lee88:
                  jedamum:

                  Wait wait wait.

                  If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?

                  Enrichment is different from tuition...bcos it's non-academic.
                  My friend's son in a popular school was asked if his tutors coach her son in school hw...if these said students need tuition, doesn't it confirm that tutors ARE hired for the wrong reason? :faint: Are these students implying they need someone to sit beside them so that they can study and get homework done?

                  Some enrichment can be academic.

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                    janet88
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                    SAHM_TAN:
                    I think it's important for a child to go though and learn about the process of thinking. I have no issue if the child wants to buy notes or to use teachers' notes as additional resource but the child must have the thinking skills.


                    It's just like there are shoes with Velcro but I still insist that they learn how to tie shoe laces. Or like making ice-cream, there's an easy and more tedious way to do it. I will show them the tedious way before showing them the easier way. It's like I'm torturing my kids :rotflmao:
                    Making own notes is important for a child to learn. He/She cannot possibly be having a tutor beside to give notes. If the child can make his/her own notes, that would be more effective bcos it is 'personalized' to oneself...for eg the mistakes often made and areas which are overlooked. Critical thinking as well as thinking out of the box will make those notes more valuable.

                    There may be shoes with Velcro but they cannot be wearing Velcro shoes or digital watches for life. I don't think you are torturing but teaching them that life is not a bed of roses. :hi5:

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                      Mychildren
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                      janet_lee88:
                      SAHM_TAN:

                      I think it's important for a child to go though and learn about the process of thinking. I have no issue if the child wants to buy notes or to use teachers' notes as additional resource but the child must have the thinking skills.


                      It's just like there are shoes with Velcro but I still insist that they learn how to tie shoe laces. Or like making ice-cream, there's an easy and more tedious way to do it. I will show them the tedious way before showing them the easier way. It's like I'm torturing my kids :rotflmao:

                      Making own notes is important for a child to learn. He/She cannot possibly be having a tutor beside to give notes. If the child can make his/her own notes, that would be more effective bcos it is 'personalized' to oneself...for eg the mistakes often made and areas which are overlooked. Critical thinking as well as thinking out of the box will make those notes more valuable.

                      There may be shoes with Velcro but they cannot be wearing Velcro shoes or digital watches for life. I don't think you are torturing but teaching them that life is not a bed of roses. :hi5:

                      :hi5:

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                        atrecord
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                        hquek:
                        Well I know some bright sec school kids who ask for tuition so they can have access to good notes.


                        When I was in sec 3, I took bio and had no clue what the super cheem book was talking about. Luckily I had a friend who quietly told me about this fantastic alternate textbook. Went to buy the book and the bio world made sense after that, moral of story...sometime studying hard ain't going to help if one don't have good crutches to lean on.
                        Shouldn't teachers be the one to:
                        - give good notes to the students
                        - and more so, make sure that the students understand what the textbook is talking about?

                        Actually, it's also a little surprising: all textbooks used in Singapore schools are approved by MOE, so if the textbook you used was so bad, how did it get approved in the first place?

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