Alternative use for tuition
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Chenonceau:
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost: I hope all parents will seriously reconsider the effectiveness of tuition. Again, as a tutor, I'm against tuition and hope today's write-up on tuition centres rejecting A students will change some parents' mindset. Education is a life-long process and we can't measure success with the number of As but the ability of a child to adjust and live in this dog eat dog world.
I am with you on this SAHM_TAN. My first reaction when I read that these 2 Sec 2 students need tutors to discipline them to study was same as yours. If by their teens, children have so little self-discipline that they cannot carry out one of their primary responsibilities without CLOSE supervision... it is worrisome. These Sec 2 students are probably NOT destined for top management positions. When you come out to work and will only do your primary job because someone is watching you, no one will promote you.SAHM_TAN:
I was reading the write-up on tuition in the ST today. There were 2 sec level students who are doing well in their studies but opt for tuition so that they will be disciplined to study.
The article does not state if both had tuition when they were in primary school.
I was scared. I immediately worked with dd1 to get her set a schedule to learn her spelling and tingxie and let her take responsibility. I think to start small and gradually move on to bigger stuff like her many mini tests.
In the short term, you get the good grades. In the long-term, life will play you out because you lack an important life skill.
Even though it was tough in the last 2 years because DS' teachers taught simple stuff and tested really hard, I didn't bother to teach him or even learn his stuff. I opened the way to resources and taught him to self-learn and self-discipline. When DD was in IP, the self-directed independent study skills helped her surpass many who scored 10 points higher than her in PSLE.
Don't shortchange your kids long-term character development for short-term grades. I don't think it is worth it. -
Wait wait wait.
If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn’t it be enrichment already and not tuition? -
jedamum:
Possibly and there is a differentiation between enrichment and tuition but no one is really listening....Wait wait wait.
If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?
Jedamum you are listening!!!!! *Bravo*
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ksi:
Enrichment classes are those beyond the school textbooks such as dancing, music and swimming. These students needed tuition cos they are not disciplined to study on their own. More like needing a nanny than a tutor. :roll: This would means that the tutor would be sitting there looking on as the student does his work. :slapshead: :slapshead:
Possibly and there is a differentiation between enrichment and tuition but no one is really listening....jedamum:
Wait wait wait.
If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition? Jedamum you are listening!!!!! *Bravo* -
jedamum:
This does not apply in every field. I was told by my bosses not to reinvent the wheel. The company has resources, experienced staff, past records a plenty. Don't be a smart alec to try to draft your ownsreportreport. Even something new can derive from templates of similar reports.
Hahaha.... this model ans is quite true at work place too.
I remember a colleague was asked to write a report. He came over to me ask if i've done this previously and if i have a template!!! NUS grad!
So to say that kids relying on external notes will will turn out to be poor worker is not totally true. As to some, this is a smart way to learn faster. Mho.[/quote]
True if one used it as a reference. I know him, he just want to re-use, change a few words. Hmmmm.... may be I'm the type i want to be a little different, more creative. I may borrow for reference but will not copy! -
tutormum:
Enrichment classes are those beyond the school textbooks such as dancing, music and swimming. These students needed tuition cos they are not disciplined to study on their own. More like needing a nanny than a tutor. :roll: This would means that the tutor would be sitting there looking on as the student does his work. :slapshead: :slapshead:[/quote]Yes, these are enrichment classes (those in blue). Before that my DS has 4 of those including his school CCA, in the end need to take 1 out because of too much homework. Don't scold me, I didn't ask him go for the 4, he want them himself.
Possibly and there is a differentiation between enrichment and tuition but no one is really listening....ksi:
[quote=\"jedamum\"]Wait wait wait.
If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition? Jedamum you are listening!!!!! *Bravo* -
For me tuition is about getting external help on existing school work in the current level that the child is in. Enrichment besides non-academic activities such as dancing, music, sports, etc, I include academics learning beyond school curriculum and child's current level. There are such enrichment activities by MOE for students who are HA and in GEP.
To summarize the 2 kids' reasons, they use tuition to ensure that they will revise, recap school work, so that will not procrastinate in studying. Of course it was also mentioned that the tutor teach new infor but it's not stated is it advanced infor.
When I read the article, my take away was that they used tuition to discipline themselves to study. For new infor, I want my kids at an older age to be able to research on their own, on topics that they are interested about.
I think it's important for a child to go though and learn about the process of thinking. I have no issue if the child wants to buy notes or to use teachers' notes as additional resource but the child must have the thinking skills.
It's just like there are shoes with Velcro but I still insist that they learn how to tie shoe laces. Or like making ice-cream, there's an easy and more tedious way to do it. I will show them the tedious way before showing them the easier way. It's like I'm torturing my kids :rotflmao: -
jedamum:
Enrichment is different from tuition...bcos it's non-academic.Wait wait wait.
If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?
My friend's son in a popular school was asked if his tutors coach her son in school hw...if these said students need tuition, doesn't it confirm that tutors ARE hired for the wrong reason? :faint: Are these students implying they need someone to sit beside them so that they can study and get homework done? -
janet_lee88:
Some enrichment can be academic.
Enrichment is different from tuition...bcos it's non-academic.jedamum:
Wait wait wait.
If the said students said they needed tuition to have discipline in studying, shouldn't it be enrichment already and not tuition?
My friend's son in a popular school was asked if his tutors coach her son in school hw...if these said students need tuition, doesn't it confirm that tutors ARE hired for the wrong reason? :faint: Are these students implying they need someone to sit beside them so that they can study and get homework done? -
SAHM_TAN:
Making own notes is important for a child to learn. He/She cannot possibly be having a tutor beside to give notes. If the child can make his/her own notes, that would be more effective bcos it is 'personalized' to oneself...for eg the mistakes often made and areas which are overlooked. Critical thinking as well as thinking out of the box will make those notes more valuable.I think it's important for a child to go though and learn about the process of thinking. I have no issue if the child wants to buy notes or to use teachers' notes as additional resource but the child must have the thinking skills.
It's just like there are shoes with Velcro but I still insist that they learn how to tie shoe laces. Or like making ice-cream, there's an easy and more tedious way to do it. I will show them the tedious way before showing them the easier way. It's like I'm torturing my kids :rotflmao:
There may be shoes with Velcro but they cannot be wearing Velcro shoes or digital watches for life. I don't think you are torturing but teaching them that life is not a bed of roses. :hi5:
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