PM Lee: What future do you want for Singapore?
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Whether singles chose to bear children is a personal choice.
Innocent children shd nvr be made to bear d burden of their parents’ choice.
Is it wise to encourage singles to hv children without d financial ability to take care of them?
Look to NZ’s experience with single moms. -
Its a personal choice for unmarried or singles to hve kids, this one can’t help but agreed. Of course there are adverse consequences as pointed out by many here.
The promoters try hard to convince others that’s they hve the financial means and there’s indeed nothing wrong as it is in one’s state of mind. This statement its totally rubbish! There’s such a thing as wrong instead of no right or wrong and in this instance, it is incorrect for singles or unmarried couples to procreate as their off springs will hve to bear the brunt. Fortunately, our government is wise enough not to acceed to the request to amend existing policies.
Supposing the promoters of alternative life style hve their way, two things will sure to happen. First, our society will sure to disintegrade and deteriorate and once this happen, it will lead to the second one- that is the ruling party will lose power sooner than expected! -
Funz:
A normal family is encouraged to have kids. And that is the direction of the govt policies.
Yah boy, another topic for debate.
Why only the reasonably well off can have kids alone? If thinking along that line, only reasonably well off couples should have kids too?
A single parent family, on the other hand, is not encouraged. Bcoz it is not \"natural\". You are kinda upsetting the eco system of family structure, and it doesn't seems very conductive environment to bring up a child in a single parent family. Can the parent afford to give the kid fully what the they need? or is the parent struggling to make ends meet, and no spare attention to devote to the upbringing of the kid(s)?
In the early 70s, when the govt deemed that SG is not ready for population boom.. they also introduced stop-at-Two policy.
And as currently, they may feel that SG is not really for excessive Single parent families.. so.. no encouragement.
Perhaps they may feel that it is a potential social problem if kids that do not have a natural family structure are more likely to be led astray? There may be some statistics somewhere.. not too sure.. -
[quote]Traditional family still key: PM Lee[/quote]
With respect, what was he talking about? The traditional Asian family I am familiar with often consisted of one husband and several wives. That's the traditional family of my grandparents and great-grandparents' generation that I grew up in. Let's not have selective amnesia here, ok? This one husband, one wife thing is... uhm... Western in origin. -
pirate:
[quote]Traditional family still key: PM Lee
With respect, what was he talking about? The traditional Asian family I am familiar with often consisted of one husband and several wives. That's the traditional family of my grandparents and great-grandparents' generation that I grew up in. Let's not have selective amnesia here, ok? This one husband, one wife thing is... uhm... Western in origin.[/quote]Alright, so what are you advocating then? The Western society of NOW, the Western society of the Victorian era, or the Western society of some dystopian future?
No need to knock the current structure by setting up straw men. -
Don’t get me wrong. I am still of the view that the better family will be one with father and mother married to each other. Not disputing that at all. I am of the view that though unmarried pregnancies should not be encouraged, it should not be discriminated against either.
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I am advocating that we stop looking at things in terms of pidgeon holes. \"Traditional Asian\", \"Victorian Western\", \"Western of now\" etc. are all pidgeon holes.
I am also advocating that we stop using emotional terms in an attempt to hijack the discussion. \"Traditional family\"... puh lease! That was a real cheap shot. :razz: -
Lilac66:
I think societal norms influence policies more than policies influencing societal norms.
Ya hor, a very touchy topic ... then back to the topic of single women giving birth, the above applies too.
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Funz:
Don't get me wrong. I am still of the view that the better family will be one with father and mother married to each other. Not disputing that at all. I am of the view that though unmarried pregnancies should not be encouraged, it should not be discriminated against either.
Agree. I am of the view that we can start by not discriminating against broken families and families with a foreign spouse. Currently, they are all lumped together under HDB policies as \"single\". -
pirate:
That is why I started by saying people are confused and we often place our compassion even before definition is clear!!!Funz:
Don't get me wrong. I am still of the view that the better family will be one with father and mother married to each other. Not disputing that at all. I am of the view that though unmarried pregnancies should not be encouraged, it should not be discriminated against either.
Agree. I am of the view that we can start by not discriminating against broken families and families with a foreign spouse. Currently, they are all lumped together under HDB policies as \"single\".
Single women having kids and single moms are different things.
1. Broken families marital status is divorce, maybe widowed...
A.Children has ex hub surname.
B.Children hv other surnames then becomes single women scenario.
2.Families with foreign spouse marital status is married.
The 1A n 2 are single moms and I do not think they are discriminated. But if so, these groups may need help.
3.The Jo lady in the dialogue marital status is single. Children will take mother's surname.
This group does everything by choice and no one disputes that. Feel free....but as a parent, it is my responsibility to get my child to avoid this group for herself because it she wants choice she has to give her child the freedom of choice.
I am simplifying the scenarios for ease of discussion but I think in reality anything to do with relationships is complex.
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