Spouse or Kids? Which comes first?
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not to say that all wifes dun hv to change themselves and continue to ignore their men… but even if wife is pretty and intelligent and sexy and no problems at home, that doesnt mean men wun go out n be tempted when the chance is there…
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3boys: I totally can identify with "don’t be your husband’s mother" part. In fact, a friend of mine gave me a lecture on this topic. He explained how a man’s instinct is "to be mothered" and how a women’s instinct is "to mother". I still recall how he gave me an example that when I change my own towel, my instinct would be to change my hubby’s towel, too. Unfortunately, this will be a thankless task; some barely notices that the towels were changed!
So, after marriage, I did notice things like how I’d think the floor should be mopped weekly, but every other week was good enough for my husband. I feel that shirts, pants and dresses should be ironed - my husband prefers the wrinkle-free shirts (and who would notice his pants, anyway). So, I trained myself to not use my own standards as the yardstick - else I would be his mother (or maid!). I did threw out his old towels, though! -
verykiasumummy:
but even if wife is pretty and intelligent and sexy and no problems at home, that doesnt mean men wun go out n be tempted when the chance is there...
That's true too
Lower probability only -
Hi ladies,
good debate. I am of course, being slightly hyperbolic. But it is a pragmatic approach to long term happiness, in my view. Will it work in all cases? Clearly not, but I do believe it tips the odds in your favour.
I understand that it will be difficult for some to swallow. "Why must I even TRY to hang on to my husband, aren’t we MARRIED already for heaven’s sake!"
Yes, it is true, wedding vows are sacred. But one must remember, being faithful is just one part of wedding vows (at least in the Christian tradition), but the one that is most emphasised. There is love and respect, to hold and to cherish, to obey. These are key components too. When was the last time you told your spouse you cherished him/her?
It is a big commitment, which is why some people are very skittish about getting married.
A marriage starts at the wedding altar, it does not end there. After the wedding, the real work starts, to ensure that your spouse is HAPPY in the marriage. This is the responsibility of both parties, to ensure the HAPPINESS of their spouse in the marriage. And if it means taking a less prideful stance on certain matters, being submissive on certain matters (and I am referring to both men and women), I think it is a very small price to pay.
Otherwise the wedding band can become just another chain, and some parties (men AND women) will at some point choose not to chained.
I am happy in my marriage. When I see a pretty girl walk by, I may give her an admiring look, but only because she reminds me of my DW. My DW doesn’t mind, I give that passing girl that look, and then I give DW that same look.
Try that on your hubby, an appreciative look, see if it doesn’t do wonders. -
sleepy:
Haha. No wonder I was tempted a few times. Later am going over to scold 'valvestate' & see if can wake him up.Mychildren:
Its a sad story so I always advise people not to drag the pak tou so long, quickly settled down if u have find your Mr & Mrs Right.
6 months to 1.5 years of exclusively dating each other is the best time to get married. When the fire is still burning .. :evil:
Pot scolding kettle. :lightrod: :rotflmao: -
verykiasumummy:
not to say that all wifes dun hv to change themselves and continue to ignore their men... but even if wife is pretty and intelligent and sexy and no problems at home, that doesnt mean men wun go out n be tempted when the chance is there...
Yes... ever read this article before that one man had a very beautiful and sexy wife however, he still thinks of EMA and also with women who were not as attractive as his wife... So they are saying that EMA is not because of the woman but rather the man (as in his mindset). You can be the most beautiful woman on earth but if your dh has the EMA mindset, he will still cheat. -
3Boys:
I'm more on 3boys side. If the father & mother are loving, the children can feel it & they'll be happy too. Yes, kids want attention, me and DH will work on who handle which one & we distribute the work together. We also told each other what we're busy with, so the other one can comes in to takeover the kids. I never boss him when he's online & he didn't too.Hi ladies,
good debate. I am of course, being slightly hyperbolic. But it is a pragmatic approach to long term happiness, in my view. Will it work in all cases? Clearly not, but I do believe it tips the odds in your favour.
I understand that it will be difficult for some to swallow. \"Why must I even TRY to hang on to my husband, aren't we MARRIED already for heaven's sake!\"
Yes, it is true, wedding vows are sacred. But one must remember, being faithful is just one part of wedding vows (at least in the Christian tradition), but the one that is most emphasised. There is love and respect, to hold and to cherish, to obey. These are key components too. When was the last time you told your spouse you cherished him/her?
It is a big commitment, which is why some people are very skittish about getting married.
A marriage starts at the wedding altar, it does not end there. After the wedding, the real work starts, to ensure that your spouse is HAPPY in the marriage. This is the responsibility of both parties, to ensure the HAPPINESS of their spouse in the marriage. And if it means taking a less prideful stance on certain matters, being submissive on certain matters (and I am referring to both men and women), I think it is a very small price to pay.
Otherwise the wedding band can become just another chain, and some parties (men AND women) will at some point choose not to chained.
I am happy in my marriage. When I see a pretty girl walk by, I may give her an admiring look, but only because she reminds me of my DW. My DW doesn't mind, I give that passing girl that look, and then I give DW that same look.
Try that on your hubby, an appreciative look, see if it doesn't do wonders.
That's why I must stress that 2 way communication is very very important. Even my pastor asked all on the stage,\"Did u still say I love u to your spouse?\" & \"Did u all still hold hands?\" etc. Think he is reminding us about the love for each other as husband & wife, beside been busy with our everyday life & the kids. -
Mychildren:
:celebrate:
I'm more on 3boys side. If the father & mother are loving, the children can feel it & they'll be happy too. Yes, kids want attention, me and DH will work on who handle which one & we distribute the work together. We also told each other what we're busy with, so the other one can comes in to takeover the kids. I never boss him when he's online & he didn't too.
That's why I must stress that 2 way communication is very very important. Even my pastor asked all on the stage,\"Did u still say I love u to your spouse?\" & \"Did u all still hold hands?\" etc. Think he is reminding us about the love for each other as husband & wife, beside been busy with our everyday life & the kids. -
MMM:
It does not mean that one does not try, does it?verykiasumummy:
not to say that all wifes dun hv to change themselves and continue to ignore their men... but even if wife is pretty and intelligent and sexy and no problems at home, that doesnt mean men wun go out n be tempted when the chance is there...
Yes... ever read this article before that one man had a very beautiful and sexy wife however, he still thinks of EMA and also with women who were not as attractive as his wife... So they are saying that EMA is not because of the woman but rather the man (as in his mindset). You can be the most beautiful woman on earth but if your dh has the EMA mindset, he will still cheat.
What good does it do to say, \"If you have a straying mind, even if I dress up and pay you lots of attention, you might still stray.\", and to then dress down and ignore the hubby to prove the point, right? -
3Boys:
:hi5: Going off now till I'm bossy again. Good day to all!
:celebrate:Mychildren:
I'm more on 3boys side. If the father & mother are loving, the children can feel it & they'll be happy too. Yes, kids want attention, me and DH will work on who handle which one & we distribute the work together. We also told each other what we're busy with, so the other one can comes in to takeover the kids. I never boss him when he's online & he didn't too.
That's why I must stress that 2 way communication is very very important. Even my pastor asked all on the stage,\"Did u still say I love u to your spouse?\" & \"Did u all still hold hands?\" etc. Think he is reminding us about the love for each other as husband & wife, beside been busy with our everyday life & the kids.
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