MP echoes calls for PSLE to be scrapped
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No PSLE, then these children will still have to do O levels later on isn’t it? What difference does it make, hello? It’s just when they have to go through all that stress.
If they have never been exposed to such pressure since young, when they turn 16 would the stress level from this competition be much higher?
Education wasn’t freaking the kids out as much despite having CA1, SA1, CA2, SA2, streaming and PSLE. And this PSLE thing has been going on for years!
I think the problem lies with parents & teachers, on how they "educate" on the importance of getting into a good school. Also, the syllabus is progressing too quickly.
To scrape PSLE is definitely not the way to go here. -
With or without PSLE, it doesn’t change:
1. "All schools are good" not the same as "all schools are equally good"
2. It is not possible for any change of MOE policy to result in "all schools are equally good". It doesn’t matter if there is no banding, it doesn’t matter if resource allocation by MOE is the same for all schools, it doesn’t matter if each school has their own niche because how good a school is perceived to be depends on factors not controllable by MOE.
- Students are human, so they are of different ability, different learning attitude, go through different development cycle.
- Teachers are human, so they are of different teaching ability (even if they have the same qualification) and different level of dedication and commitment to their job (even though teachers are supposed to teach because of their passion for teaching and love for students)
- Parents are human, so they are of different mindset, some are more capable of coaching the children themselves, some have more money to go for external tuition or enrichment.
Hence, I support continuous improvement of our education system and I support effort to improve the quality of all schools but I don’t support any major changes just to show that our govt or MOE is listening.
Change is necessary but change is not always for the better. -
so which means KSP will still be KSP right?? haha…
the MP should hv asked us KSP before he propose to scrap la… since it doesnt help in reducing stress n pressure from students… -
noahgoh:
No PSLE, then these children will still have to do O levels later on isn't it? What difference does it make, hello? It's just when they have to go through all that stress.
If they have never been exposed to such pressure since young, when they turn 16 would the stress level from this competition be much higher?
Education wasn't freaking the kids out as much despite having CA1, SA1, CA2, SA2, streaming and PSLE. And this PSLE thing has been going on for years!
I think the problem lies with parents & teachers, on how they \"educate\" on the importance of getting into a good school. Also, the syllabus is progressing too quickly.
To scrape PSLE is definitely not the way to go here.![](\"http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TBP0ozjne8Y/TdQPHRjgwCI/AAAAAAAAAP8/zr8v8mbP1rU/s1600/clap-animated-animation-clap-smiley-emoticon-000340-large.gif\")
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TBP0ozjne8Y/TdQPHRjgwCI/AAAAAAAAAP8/zr8v8mbP1rU/s1600/clap-animated-animation-clap-smiley-emoticon-000340-large.gif\">
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wonderm:
With or without PSLE, it doesn't change:
1. \"All schools are good\" not the same as \"all schools are equally good\"
2. It is not possible for any change of MOE policy to result in \"all schools are equally good\". It doesn't matter if there is no banding, it doesn't matter if resource allocation by MOE is the same for all schools, it doesn't matter if each school has their own niche because how good a school is perceived to be depends on factors not controllable by MOE.
- Students are human, so they are of different ability, different learning attitude, go through different development cycle.
- Teachers are human, so they are of different teaching ability (even if they have the same qualification) and different level of dedication and commitment to their job (even though teachers are supposed to teach because of their passion for teaching and love for students)
- Parents are human, so they are of different mindset, some are more capable of coaching the children themselves, some have more money to go for external tuition or enrichment.
Hence, I support continuous improvement of our education system and I support effort to improve the quality of all schools but I don't support any major changes just to show that our govt or MOE is listening.
Change is necessary but change is not always for the better. -
vlim:
Nebbermind:
Did I just felt some tremors? :rotflmao:
Oops ... Sori .. Pls hold tight to your leaf .. :evil: :rotflmao: -
:faint: so, the MOE is playing the word game? All school are good but not equal? Good in its own way? still can't change the core problem. Are they trying to get the imposing slogan but nothing change for the core system? 换汤不换药 :yikes:
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concern2:
There had been debates on GEP in parliament prior to this. Seems like there is no intention to scrape it. Now PSLE.
To understand, one needs to look at what is 精英政治:beanbear:
So what I would ask is for MOE to review what's really the purpose of PSLE? Is it healthy to have the best of the best students for the Top 10 schools to be bundled up together? Is it not elitist to have schools where there are no \"slower\" students? Why? Why must top students only be among themselves? How do we teach these students to have compassion for \"slower\" people? How else do they learn to be more understanding of people who are less academic than they are, who have different abilities & intelligences? Must we already have such segregation at Secondary level? That's what the PSLE is supporting. That's what I have issues with.
精英政治或專家政治的内核是：在任何人类组织中，总是分为两个部分，统治阶级和被统治阶级，统治阶级人数很少，属于精英，组织中的大多数是被统治阶级。无论组织开始时如何民主，最终会形成寡头统治，即寡头统治铁律。
新加坡可以算是一个典型的精英政治国家，其领导人对此也不讳言。一些人批评它的教育制度就是一个选拔精英的制度（学生从小学四年级开始就被按学术能力分流），而且也是为精英所设计的制度（例如只有15%的学生能够进入政府资助的当地大学，其余大多数人只能进入理工学院）；只有那些获得人民行动党邀请的精英才可能进入政府部门担任领导人，普通平民很难通过其他民主途径从政等。
(source: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B2%BE%E8%8B%B1%E6%94%BF%E6%B2%BB)
At the moment, the kids are already being screened at P4 level, not PSLE. Essentially, if GEP is able to sift out that 1%, PSLE isn't really that relevant anymore. So it will be that 1% against the 99%. Flourish or flop, there is no guarantee. Just like PSLE doesn't guarantee a bright future. The $$ poured into boosting grades for PSLE channeled into giving the children a more holistic education may be more worthwhile. Money have to come from somewhere, and good teachers do not come from nowhere. Many are giving private tuitions now. How to improve schools like that? FT ah?! -
phankao:
It's possible to do Sec without tuition, I'd think. I do leave my kids without as they start. My eldest only had tuition for 1yr for her Math in sec 3, and also for her chinese that year. She managed to cope on her own after that *boost*. My older boy may need tuition but no time so he tries hard to cope on his own and consults his teachers when he needs ;( Our current sec 1, *sigh*. Yeah, in the end needed Math tuition too which he started 2nd half of the year. Interestingly enough, he says he understands when his tutor explans, but not when his teachers do. Really *sigh*, bc then what are our teachers doing in school lessons? Our elder daughter also only improved after getting help from tutor - from F to A in a few months after getting tuition - again, how come the school teachers don't teach so that the child can get the A from the start? How come they are not teaching in a way the child understands and excels? Last time in secondary, it was my class math teacher who was so good at teaching in upper secondary that I went from F to A in Sec 3. How come now we have to use tutors... tutors \"BETTER\" than school teachers these days? Aiyoh.
Same here, I also get DD (Sec One) this year a Math tutor as the Math is getting tougher after term 1. DD only attended Math workshop during P5/P6 but tution was not needed during that time.
As for other subjects, at this moment the external help is still not required. -
Melodies:
:faint: so, the MOE is playing the word game? All school are good but not equal? Good in its own way? still can't change the core problem. Are they trying to get the imposing slogan but nothing change for the core system? 换汤不换药 :yikes:
It is a holistic approach, and the intention is good. Just the executive isn't that easy. Here's a start - support for parents:
http://parents-in-education.moe.gov.sg/parents-in-education/how-can-parents-be-involved
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