GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection

[pokemon]

bebe:

PiggyLalala:

Exactly I believe most kids at p3 will not be able recall the questions. They shld be busy doing the sums and not memorising the questions:)

My gal can only remember the snacks which her friends brought and shared with her..I asked if she met any of her kindy friends and she could not even recall..

Mine busy surveying the test centre canteen stores, though they are not open, juz checking what type of food they sell in their canteen. Also can tell me how that school name their classess...bt cant tell me any single 1 question. :slapshead:

[Freshmint]

pokemon:

Mine busy surveying the test centre canteen stores, though they are not open, juz checking what type of food they sell in their canteen. Also can tell me how that school name their classess...bt cant tell me any single 1 question. :slapshead:

very familiar... Mine even went on about how the school students are divided into 5 'houses', the history, and which house has been the winner since xxxx. faint...

[bebe]

Freshmint:

pokemon:

Mine busy surveying the test centre canteen stores, though they are not open, juz checking what type of food they sell in their canteen. Also can tell me how that school name their classess...bt cant tell me any single 1 question. :slapshead:

very familiar... Mine even went on about how the school students are divided into 5 'houses', the history, and which house has been the winner since xxxx. faint...

Same..My gal kpo went around the canteen and read the notice board and even shared with me that she saw some celebrities photos taken with the school background, and remembered which drama was filmed in that school.. :slapshead:

[NotKiasu]

My DS went to play catching with boys from Sch of the test centre and fell during the in between break today. If not for the injuries, he will not tell me at all. :mad:

[pek.020112taxi]

pokemon:

Kiatkhim:

[quote=\"FireflyMom\"]DD's ranking of the 4 papers, from easiest to hardest :


Math GA, Eng GA, Eng, Math

DS's ranking, from easiest to hardest:

Maths, GA I, GA II, English

My ds ranking its exactly like your ds. Alot of his classmates find english paper the most difficult and the easiest is todays math paper.[/quote]DS ranking of difficulty of the papers is also same as both your children. Maths is just like school's SA paper. GA I is easy. GA II pattern questions are challenging. Questions of English passages are abstract, beyond comprehension level.

[baobei]

monmon31:

baobei:

Just to share, mine does not go for tuition, does not attempt assessment books simply do not want to do work but loves reading. So when mine get into 1st round, I was very happy already and I think is pure luck in this case. So was not surprise to hear that this round papers are difficult.

:udawoman: :udaman:

U r v strong to resist the urge to send your kid for any lessons. All of us would hv succumbed to 'peer' pressure to a certain extent w our kiasu streak... Tats why we join the kiasuparents forum...haha

Not that I can resist, child did not do well in academic, however, have always believed that one should not depend on tuition to do well. When do we need to stop child from having tuition? Importantly is to cultivate the thinking process and learning, they need to enjoy their childhood. What happens when you drill a child? Will child be able to response well when she come across a problem that she has never encountered? Will she know what to do? If the tuition centre focus on child to remember the steps instead of guiding her or reasoning wih her why the steps need to be done, I do not see any advantage except in term of academic grades.

[cwcyenk]

To me, the GEP is like an IQ test. If your average IQ is 140, can you improve your average IQ to 160 by simply doing more work sheets or attending extensive courses?


The answer is no. You can maybe improved by 5-10 but at the end of the day, you cannot hide the fact that your average IQ is still 140. Nothing can change that.

Just like an athlete taking steriods to win a competition. You may win it one time and avoid detection. But in the end, you cannot simply take steriods and continue to win forever. Sooner or later, the reality will come back and haunt you.

So you can get into GEP by taking those courses, but in the end, if you are not what you are, you will suffer. If you are gifted, then you are gifted. If you are not, then you are not. It’s not the end of the world.

[Always21]

cwcyenk:

To me, the GEP is like an IQ test. If your average IQ is 140, can you improve your average IQ to 160 by simply doing more work sheets or attending extensive courses?


The answer is no. You can maybe improved by 5-10 but at the end of the day, you cannot hide the fact that your average IQ is still 140. Nothing can change that.

Just like an athlete taking steriods to win a competition. You may win it one time and avoid detection. But in the end, you cannot simply take steriods and continue to win forever. Sooner or later, the reality will come back and haunt you.

So you can get into GEP by taking those courses, but in the end, if you are not what you are, you will suffer. If you are gifted, then you are gifted. If you are not, then you are not. It's not the end of the world.

There are many other route to go.
Every child is gifted in different way.
Future is really a unknown answer.

[Ragamuffin shinobi]

baobei:

monmon31:

[quote=\"baobei\"]Just to share, mine does not go for tuition, does not attempt assessment books simply do not want to do work but loves reading. So when mine get into 1st round, I was very happy already and I think is pure luck in this case. So was not surprise to hear that this round papers are difficult.

:udawoman: :udaman:

U r v strong to resist the urge to send your kid for any lessons. All of us would hv succumbed to 'peer' pressure to a certain extent w our kiasu streak... Tats why we join the kiasuparents forum...haha

Not that I can resist, child did not do well in academic, however, have always believed that one should not depend on tuition to do well. When do we need to stop child from having tuition? Importantly is to cultivate the thinking process and learning, they need to enjoy their childhood. What happens when you drill a child? Will child be able to response well when she come across a problem that she has never encountered? Will she know what to do? If the tuition centre focus on child to remember the steps instead of guiding her or reasoning wih her why the steps need to be done, I do not see any advantage except in term of academic grades.[/quote]Why do you say that tuition centres focus only on the child remembering the steps and not guiding them? Are ALL tuition centres like that or are you over generalising?
I don't think we should depend on tuition or deprive our children of their childhood but sometimes, we are not the best in coaching our kids. I couldn't help my kid in science so I sent her for class. She learnt the logic behind the lesson a lot easier and faster than I could read/understand and explain to her.
Just my two cents worth here.

[iRabbit]

cwcyenk:

To me, the GEP is like an IQ test. If your average IQ is 140, can you improve your average IQ to 160 by simply doing more work sheets or attending extensive courses?


The answer is no. You can maybe improved by 5-10 but at the end of the day, you cannot hide the fact that your average IQ is still 140. Nothing can change that.

Just like an athlete taking steriods to win a competition. You may win it one time and avoid detection. But in the end, you cannot simply take steriods and continue to win forever. Sooner or later, the reality will come back and haunt you.

So you can get into GEP by taking those courses, but in the end, if you are not what you are, you will suffer. If you are gifted, then you are gifted. If you are not, then you are not. It's not the end of the world.

Whoa, you're practically linking parents who send their kids for prep course as cheaters! :yikes:

On another note, would you consider students who go for normal enrichment [to prepare for SA2] as steroid-takers too?