GEP 2012 - Screening & Selection
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FQW:
FQW... this is the 2nd time your fair mindedness impresses me. Instead of digging into a position, you really examine the arguments and weigh each.
This post makes absolute sense to me. Thanks for sharing.Melodies:
Yes, I'm asking for additional resources to be allocated to the mainstreamers (those who are 'very gifted' but were not selected and also with no helps but themselves and textbook!)
Actually, if they are truly gifted, they can figure out those materials themselves eventually.. I personally have seen \"these\" type of students before... -
Freshmint:
if undiscovered, how to know who they are? how to extend support to them?[/quote]Own up lor. Raise hand and declare 'I'm very gifted but undiscovered.'CayennePepper:
[quote=\"Melodies\"]Yes, I'm asking for additional resources to be allocated to the mainstreamers (those who are 'very gifted' but were not selected and also with no helps but themselves and textbook!)
Hmmm... so we should have a sub-GEP category for said very-gifted-yet-suay-therefore-undiscovered gems who don't have much external support? How about those gifted kids who are not selected but lucky enough to have the support?
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PiggyLalala:
How come I dont seem to understand some of posts too. :? I think as a parent, it is impt to know tt to be in gep does not mean that yr child's future is 前途无量; not selected does not mean the child 前途无亮 too. It maybe a blessing in disguise. Just my own view.
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Nebbermind:
I agree with you. I am not looking to GEP to solve a mainstream problem. I am just puzzled that HSK said that class size in mainstream does not contribute to mainstream teaching quality... but it is necessary for GEP teaching quality.
But that's coz the school or teachers are under par n gep may solve your problem but not THE problem.Chenonceau:
Tell that to a high ability child with no access to tuition nor supplementary materials from his school. 3 years with only textbooks to learn from can mean the difference between NA and Express.
GEP clouds this mainstream issue... I dun really care whether it is good to get in blah blah... mainstream has a problem and we dun need the GEP to solve it. -
Chenonceau:
FQW... this is the 2nd time your fair mindedness impresses me. Instead of digging into a position, you really examine the arguments and weigh each.[/quote]Ahem ... Thank you, thank you. I'm glad someone managed to notice my strength.
This post makes absolute sense to me. Thanks for sharing.FQW:
[quote=\"Melodies\"]Yes, I'm asking for additional resources to be allocated to the mainstreamers (those who are 'very gifted' but were not selected and also with no helps but themselves and textbook!)
Actually, if they are truly gifted, they can figure out those materials themselves eventually.. I personally have seen \"these\" type of students before... -
Glad u agree! I also donch understand why class size remains the same as during our era.
I also think we are trying to squeeze too much into our primary school kids so much so that the teachers can only teach with little interaction. It’s just too dry, like some boring sermon…it can no longer be this way…must go the charismatic way…everyone rah rah happy happy… -
Melodies:
[/quote]If MOE could afford to do for every class what they do for GEP, they would have done it already. Very easy to say make every class like GEP. Who's gonna pay for it?I have never asked for policies crafted for the hyper kiasu in mind (me included!) I'm asking for a policy to cater for the majority population especially for those disadvantaged families.
Ah, I see. Pardon if I don't care for policies crafted for the hyper kiasu in mind.3Boys:
[quote=\"Melodies\"]It has nothing to do whether I think the current GEP program is a good route or not! I'm supper 'kiasu' and wanted to have a much better alternative route (based on my standard) for my dc and yet get to enjoy childhood.
Sorry for stating an 'unseemly' reality. -
3Boys:
三个孩子的爹,the people who ask for it harbour great hope!
If MOE could afford to do for every class what they do for GEP, they would have done it already. -
Nebbermind:
3Boys = 三个孩子的爹
三个孩子的爹,the people who ask for it harbour great hope!3Boys:
If MOE could afford to do for every class what they do for GEP, they would have done it already.
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If you can’t afford it… dun test at levels of skill that require that type of teaching. It is its own self set curriculum requirement that mainstream cannot meet. When GEP started… it did lotsa stuff that wasn’t tested in the PSLE. GEP tested it within the program and all of it was meant to keep special children engaged and performing.
Now… the PSLE syllabus comprises critical thinking skills that GEP style teaching is best for. So… you have a bunch of less able kids in mainstream… tested at PSLE for skills that GEP style interactive teaching is best for teaching… but mainstream teachers teach in huge classes of 40 using thin textbooks and ummm… teachers so incompetent they make 5 spelling mistakes in 250 words.
If you wanna test GEP like thinking skills in mainstream, then provision should be made to be able to teach it as well as to the GEP. If not, dun test it in mainstream. Keep it to the GEP.
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