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    PSLE leave: For or Against?

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    • MMMM Offline
      MMM
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      Daddy 😧
      Perhaps 政府 can consider child care leave till 12 years old?

      :?
      Yes, they should seriously consider this.... My company voluntarily extend it till 12 and I feel that it makes absolute sense... You have different set of requirements when kids are in primary school. eg. meet the teachers, preparation for exams, etc.... Govt should seriously consider that why only up to 6????

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      • P Offline
        Pen88n
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        Actually I think Sec Sch kids also need that - need to see teachers, take care of them when they are sick, have parent-child bonding…teens need lots of parental attention too!

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          Imami
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          MMM:
          Daddy 😧

          Perhaps 政府 can consider child care leave till 12 years old?

          :?

          Yes, they should seriously consider this.... My company voluntarily extend it till 12 and I feel that it makes absolute sense... You have different set of requirements when kids are in primary school. eg. meet the teachers, preparation for exams, etc.... Govt should seriously consider that why only up to 6????

          My employer offers extended childcare leave too. For those with kids below age 7, it's the standard 6 days we all know about. For kids from 7 to 12, my employer is offering 5 days per kid, for up to 3 kids. In this extended 5 days childcare leave, 2 of which are to be supported by mc or medical appt letter. I think it is nice of the employer. Give up to 3 kids, shows it's support for govt's drive to get Singaporeans to have more kids.

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          • MMMM Offline
            MMM
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            Imami:
            MMM:

            [quote=\"Daddy D\"] Perhaps 政府 can consider child care leave till 12 years old?

            :?

            Yes, they should seriously consider this.... My company voluntarily extend it till 12 and I feel that it makes absolute sense... You have different set of requirements when kids are in primary school. eg. meet the teachers, preparation for exams, etc.... Govt should seriously consider that why only up to 6????

            My employer offers extended childcare leave too. For those with kids below age 7, it's the standard 6 days we all know about. For kids from 7 to 12, my employer is offering 5 days per kid, for up to 3 kids. In this extended 5 days childcare leave, 2 of which are to be supported by mc or medical appt letter. I think it is nice of the employer. Give up to 3 kids, shows it's support for govt's drive to get Singaporeans to have more kids.[/quote]Per kid??? No, we don't have it per kid. The threshold is based on the youngest child's age.

            But my company does offer dependent sick leave (which applies to my parents too). Like our usual medical leave so that is a good gesture as well.

            Hope to see my companies exercising such gesture.

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            • KissguramiK Offline
              Kissgurami
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              I am not sure what to vote for as what do the parents do when their kids are revising or the purpose of the leave is to address their questions or work out the answers? 15 Days is quite alot......


              I do agree on extending the CCL to 12 years or above , still in shock on the number of closure days for Primary level compared to Childcare. NTUC and MCYS [soon to be Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF)]. & MOM are keeping so silent about it.

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              • D Offline
                Daddy D
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                Wah... You all 的 coy HR policy so good ah...

                Must go and scold my HR Liao... :rant:

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                • KissguramiK Offline
                  Kissgurami
                  last edited by

                  Daddy 😧
                  Wah... You all 的 coy HR policy so good ah...

                  Must go and scold my HR Liao... :rant:
                  My Co doesnt have extra days for family nor extending 😓

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                  • FunzF Offline
                    Funz
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                    Don't see what is there to be for or against.


                    This is one company's initiative. And as mentioned, not that the company is giving additional leave but allowing staff to carryover their annual leave to the following year if their child is taking PSLE then. And it is applicable to staff who have been working with them 5yrs and over. After working 5yrs, you will have a minimum of 18 days annual leave, the company allows staff to carry over 1/2 their annual leave to the following year but they need to clear them by June. The good thing I guess is, this will mean parents will have some leave left to go for holidays after their kids' PSLE. :razz:

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                      Nutty mum
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                      Daddy 😧
                      Wah... You all 的 coy HR policy so good ah...

                      Must go and scold my HR Liao... :rant:
                      I fully agree and support the idea- \"scold my HR Liao\".
                      It sounds crazy for some that parents take leave for PSLE but in my case, my job is stressful and I could not possibly take half day leave everyday and hence I accumulated my leave till mid Sept for my DS's PSLE - to take care of his lunch(since all the supplementary/remedial have ended), mentally support and also my turn to re-charge my battery and just concentrate on one.
                      I do not have a helper and other times my son is able to take care of his lunch at school when he has supplmentary/remedial and in fact DS requested me to take leave to take care of his daily needs so that he could concentrate the exams.

                      So you see, I'm so pleased to hear that the staffs are given the PSLE leave!

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                        Chenonceau
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                        I laughed when I read this...


                        SINGAPORE: Introducing PSLE leave \"feeds into the fears\" of parents and the exam should not be the \"defining moment in a child's development\", wrote Minister of State for Transport and Finance, Josephine Teo in her Facebook post on Wednesday.

                        I think it is not right for her to diss OCBC's laudable initiative... popular with OCBC staff and therefore a key staff retention feature. There is something wrong with her logic. PSLE leave does not create parental fear of PSLE. It is parental fear of PSLE that created a demand for PSLE leave. It is ridiculous to assert that giving leave leads to parental fear. Companies give leave for childcare and holidays. Does anyone believe that such leave increases parent love for children and holidays? Or is it because people love their kids and holidays, and therefore companies give childcare leave plus holiday leave to fulfill staff demand for such leave.

                        The MOE, with its highly difficult exams, insufficient textbooks, propensity to fail half the students in a good class, incompetent primary school teachers... does a pretty good job at creating parental fear without having a politician shift the blame to OCBC who is only trying to help its own staff cope with the educational system as it was (before the changes announced last month).

                        It just seems so insincere again. Parents are all at fault because they fear too much. Now, OCBC is at fault for feeding fear. BUT the govt is not at fault for having created an educational system that prized competition more than collaboration.

                        Her words ring hollow in my own experience. If I had not taught my son extensively outside of class... if I had not taken 2 YEARS of sabbatical... I think DS will have been headed straight to Normal Academic NOT because he is slow... but because his teachers teach ONLY from the textbooks. In any other country, teaching from the textbooks would be sufficient to pass exams and do well at PSLE. In Singapore, no.

                        In conclusion, I think her logic is flawed. How can leave create fear? Next I think her statement sounds like an attempt to divest MOE of all responsibility... make the govt look good. The govt would look better if she engaged in sincere and balanced dialogue. The fault is NOT ALL ON parents' side. MOE has a part. Parents also have a part.

                        OCBC has NO part. Again another politician who thinks we are too stupid to see flaws in logic.

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