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    PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • S Offline
      sinoboy
      last edited by

      KiKuRuBear:
      tinwhoong:

      I believe that most parents are so concerned on the results at PSLE, which is the first exam of the life of Singapore children. I only caution that any information pertaining to the results is now classified as undisclosable. Any attempt to disclose it without the permission from the school and MOE is deemed as invasion of privileged information.



      Whatever so-called \"I heard\" from so and so will never been validated. If I am not wrong, I think that MOE will have the power to stop any parent from engaging the media to report on their children's high score.

      Please do with a bit of wisdom, I do not know how MOE and the school will view it. If any names of the so-called top student, will it deemed as contradicting the current new policy. The MOE will reserve the rights to pursue the matters as they deem fit.

      I caution myself not to be involved of sharing the information I know. This is because I do not know how MOE will view it. This is new policy and let us discuss it with the term, I heard, I was told by my son or daughter who happen to be friend that their classmate get how much and so on. Do not say \"so and so (with reference to actual name) of \"so and so\" school obtained 279, 285, 283. It might land you in trouble if MOE intend to pursue it, it might question the school, and slowly filter down to the actual person who release such information.

      I think what you mentioned is too extreme. I can't imagine if there is a gag order on our kids or the parents that they cannot mention 'so and so' from 'so and so' school obtained 'XXX' !

      Agree that it's too extreme. furthermore who knows who is the top student in Singapore? Unless moe confirms the identity, which likely it won't. :?

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        ruohoo97
        last edited by

        tinwhoong:
        I believe that most parents are so concerned on the results at PSLE, which is the first exam of the life of Singapore children. I only caution that any information pertaining to the results is now classified as undisclosable. Any attempt to disclose it without the permission from the school and MOE is deemed as invasion of privileged information.



        Whatever so-called \"I heard\" from so and so will never been validated. If I am not wrong, I think that MOE will have the power to stop any parent from engaging the media to report on their children's high score.

        Please do with a bit of wisdom, I do not know how MOE and the school will view it. If any names of the so-called top student, will it deemed as contradicting the current new policy. The MOE will reserve the rights to pursue the matters as they deem fit.

        I caution myself not to be involved of sharing the information I know. This is because I do not know how MOE will view it. This is new policy and let us discuss it with the term, I heard, I was told by my son or daughter who happen to be friend that their classmate get how much and so on. Do not say \"so and so (with reference to actual name) of \"so and so\" school obtained 279, 285, 283. It might land you in trouble if MOE intend to pursue it, it might question the school, and slowly filter down to the actual person who release such information.
        😂 😂 It is a well-intended initiative by MOE, however, it is not a 'gag\" order by LAW. so don't worry. Those who share info are not breaching Law.
        I believe the KSP who share the information here are also willing to provide useful info for fellow parents for various reasons.

        That in fact shows the well-intended act by MOE is meaningless.

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          ChiefKiasu
          last edited by

          tinwhoong:
          I believe that most parents are so concerned on the results at PSLE, which is the first exam of the life of Singapore children. I only caution that any information pertaining to the results is now classified as undisclosable. Any attempt to disclose it without the permission from the school and MOE is deemed as invasion of privileged information.



          Whatever so-called \"I heard\" from so and so will never been validated. If I am not wrong, I think that MOE will have the power to stop any parent from engaging the media to report on their children's high score.

          Please do with a bit of wisdom, I do not know how MOE and the school will view it. If any names of the so-called top student, will it deemed as contradicting the current new policy. The MOE will reserve the rights to pursue the matters as they deem fit.

          I caution myself not to be involved of sharing the information I know. This is because I do not know how MOE will view it. This is new policy and let us discuss it with the term, I heard, I was told by my son or daughter who happen to be friend that their classmate get how much and so on. Do not say \"so and so (with reference to actual name) of \"so and so\" school obtained 279, 285, 283. It might land you in trouble if MOE intend to pursue it, it might question the school, and slowly filter down to the actual person who release such information.
          Thank you for the caution. The way you put it make it sound like a felony to disclose information about top performers. If that is indeed the case, shouldn't MOE come up front and state the exact penalties for disclosing such \"privileged information\". Would it be right to charge people of a crime retroactively by stating the rules after the fact?

          Until such a ruling is made clear and present, please do not add to the confusion by speculating on the dangers of parents or students talking about grades. We do not believe that obfuscating information is the solution to rebalancing the stress on academic performance.

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            enoawng
            last edited by

            May I confirm this is how posting works


            If a child A gets 250. Child B gets 249.

            Child A selects School X as first choice and School Y as second choice.
            However School X has no more vacancies.

            Say there is only 1 last slot in School Y

            At the same Child B selects School Y as the first choice.

            Which child gets the last slot in School Y? Is the posting algorithm documented anywhere where the public can review?

            Many thanks.

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              Dreamgear
              last edited by

              enoawng:
              May I confirm this is how posting works


              If a child A gets 250. Child B gets 249.

              Child A selects School X as first choice and School Y as second choice.
              However School X has no more vacancies.

              Say there is only 1 last slot in School Y

              At the same Child B selects School Y as the first choice.

              Which child gets the last slot in School Y? Is the posting algorithm documented anywhere where the public can review?

              Many thanks.
              250 gets the place

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                jtoh
                last edited by

                enoawng:
                May I confirm this is how posting works


                If a child A gets 250. Child B gets 249.

                Child A selects School X as first choice and School Y as second choice.
                However School X has no more vacancies.

                Say there is only 1 last slot in School Y

                At the same Child B selects School Y as the first choice.

                Which child gets the last slot in School Y? Is the posting algorithm documented anywhere where the public can review?

                Many thanks.
                Child A with 250 gets the place in School Y. The process is very clearly described in that big grey book given to your P6 child.

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                  jtoh
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                  sujatha:
                  Hi, my daughter scored 252 + 2 HMT. 2A* maths + eng. 2A science + tamil. She was a potential high scorer who didn't do upto the expectation and yet dreaming of IP programmes. Following are my choices for her. Pls advise if am being realistic and trying to secure a place for my daughter in a good school.


                  1. NJC IP cut-off 258
                  2. Cedar girls IP. Cut-off 258
                  3. TJC IP. Cut-off 255
                  4. MGS IP. Cut-off 255
                  5. SCGS IP Cut-off 250
                  6. Cedar girls express. Cutoff 249

                  Really need some expert advise and good guidance please. Thanks a lot!
                  I think your chances for NJC and Cedar are slim. For the other new IP schools, your stated COP is the minimum COP that is accepted by the school to APPLY for IP. So the COPs could very well go much higher than what you've stated. Your only safe school is Cedar Express. SCGS is likely to go much higher than 250.

                  You should rethink your 6 choices. From the looks of it, it is very likely that you might end up in Cedar Express. Select one more safe option and remove either NJC or Cedar or both from your list.

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                    Funz
                    last edited by

                    tinwhoong:
                    I believe that most parents are so concerned on the results at PSLE, which is the first exam of the life of Singapore children. I only caution that any information pertaining to the results is now classified as undisclosable. Any attempt to disclose it without the permission from the school and MOE is deemed as invasion of privileged information.



                    Whatever so-called \"I heard\" from so and so will never been validated. If I am not wrong, I think that MOE will have the power to stop any parent from engaging the media to report on their children's high score.

                    Please do with a bit of wisdom, I do not know how MOE and the school will view it. If any names of the so-called top student, will it deemed as contradicting the current new policy. The MOE will reserve the rights to pursue the matters as they deem fit.

                    I caution myself not to be involved of sharing the information I know. This is because I do not know how MOE will view it. This is new policy and let us discuss it with the term, I heard, I was told by my son or daughter who happen to be friend that their classmate get how much and so on. Do not say \"so and so (with reference to actual name) of \"so and so\" school obtained 279, 285, 283. It might land you in trouble if MOE intend to pursue it, it might question the school, and slowly filter down to the actual person who release such information.
                    :faint:
                    Do you seriously believe what you have just posted or are you just trying to dissuade others from posting.

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                      tik
                      last edited by

                      dimsum:
                      Updated with Pei Tong 266


                      >= 280
                      NYPS 285
                      St Stephen 284
                      Rulang 283
                      Tao Nan 283
                      Catholic High 282
                      Nan Chiau 281
                      Nan Hua 281
                      Temasek 281
                      Kcpps 280
                      RGPS 280

                      270 - 279
                      ACS Primary 279
                      AiTong 279
                      Gan Eng Seng 279
                      Yu Neng 279
                      Red Swastika 278
                      Rosyth 278
                      South View 277
                      St. Hilda's 277
                      Woodgrove 276
                      Chongfu 275
                      Kong Hwa 275
                      Woodlands 275
                      Holy Innocent 274
                      Maha Bodhi 274
                      Mee Toh 274
                      Pei Chun 274
                      PLMGS 274
                      Compassvale 273
                      Hougang 273
                      Pathlight 273
                      Rivervale 273
                      Northland 272
                      De La Salle 272
                      Fuhua 272
                      Kranji 272
                      Marymount 272
                      River Valley 272
                      Chij olqp 271
                      Fairfield Methodist 271
                      Lakeside 271
                      Radin Mas 271
                      SCGS 271
                      Yangzheng 271
                      Maris Stella 270
                      Zhangde 270
                      Zhenghua 270

                      260 - 269
                      Ponggol Primary 269
                      Pioneer Primary 267
                      Pei Tong 266
                      Cedar 265
                      Corporation Primary 265
                      Naval Base 265
                      It's misleading to only look at one top score from each school.

                      NYPS has 45 kids with PSLE of 270 and above, 232 kids with PSLE above 250 and the mean aggregate PSLE score of the entire cohort of 490 kids is 239. These numbers exclude HCL extra points.

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                        WeiHan
                        last edited by

                        tik:
                        dimsum:

                        Updated with Pei Tong 266


                        >= 280
                        NYPS 285
                        St Stephen 284
                        Rulang 283
                        Tao Nan 283
                        Catholic High 282
                        Nan Chiau 281
                        Nan Hua 281
                        Temasek 281
                        Kcpps 280
                        RGPS 280

                        270 - 279
                        ACS Primary 279
                        AiTong 279
                        Gan Eng Seng 279
                        Yu Neng 279
                        Red Swastika 278
                        Rosyth 278
                        South View 277
                        St. Hilda's 277
                        Woodgrove 276
                        Chongfu 275
                        Kong Hwa 275
                        Woodlands 275
                        Holy Innocent 274
                        Maha Bodhi 274
                        Mee Toh 274
                        Pei Chun 274
                        PLMGS 274
                        Compassvale 273
                        Hougang 273
                        Pathlight 273
                        Rivervale 273
                        Northland 272
                        De La Salle 272
                        Fuhua 272
                        Kranji 272
                        Marymount 272
                        River Valley 272
                        Chij olqp 271
                        Fairfield Methodist 271
                        Lakeside 271
                        Radin Mas 271
                        SCGS 271
                        Yangzheng 271
                        Maris Stella 270
                        Zhangde 270
                        Zhenghua 270

                        260 - 269
                        Ponggol Primary 269
                        Pioneer Primary 267
                        Pei Tong 266
                        Cedar 265
                        Corporation Primary 265
                        Naval Base 265

                        It's misleading to only look at one top score from each school.

                        NYPS has 45 kids with PSLE of 270 and above, 232 kids with PSLE above 250 and the mean aggregate PSLE score of the entire cohort of 490 kids is 239. These numbers exclude HCL extra points.

                        Of course and it should be expected. Our elitist system pick the best out of each conhort and put them in a few schools for GEP education. And why shouldn't we expect that few schools to have a better results?

                        That said, I am saying that I oppose differentiated education base on each child capability.

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