PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion

[mummy so kiasu]

stressedguy:

Have anyone been to the victoria open house today.I went there to and find it very interesting.However, the space is quite limited.The auditorium is air-conditioned and the school house is quite huge.The food there tastes quite nice and cheap.The CCAs there got all gold and wished to develop pupils into a gentleman,professional and sportman.THe principal's talk was very interesting with about 5 quizzes.The last question asked was What do you wish to acheive before leaving this school? No one dared to answer except for a boy who raise his hand up.However he forgot the answer and soso,The quizzes also had prizes to been collected.THe best part is the q and a Section when there were many questions asked.I couldnt remember any so i apologize.Oh, if you remembered the quetions,Pls reply e as i want the know what the questions were.The guided tour was quite good as the students explained every secton of the svchool very flunently and precisely.There was a talk about the ip in their school and they have something called electives(optional) The other sections of this open house-I cant remember. I posted this for those who did not go for the open house and have no other reason...If i made any mistakes or unfull article pls quote me or create another post to comment on my writing

Thank you for sharing. :please:

[GLORYmum]

Hi all,


Have there been any discussion about the quality passes ?

Did moe instruct schools to downplay this information too??

[smurfetteloves]

Yes, new. Think the open house was good. The staff and students there were very helpful and ready to answer our queries. We also went to the IP talk on the 7th floor. Under IP, they said all students need to take higher Mother Tongue and take that to sit for the compulsory "O" level HMT. That got me a little worried. Did you hear the same thing as I?

[stressedguy]

smurfetteloves:

Yes, new. Think the open house was good. The staff and students there were very helpful and ready to answer our queries. We also went to the IP talk on the 7th floor. Under IP, they said all students need to take higher Mother Tongue and take that to sit for the compulsory \"O\" level HMT. That got me a little worried. Did you hear the same thing as I?

Yes

[stressedguy]

stressedguy:

smurfetteloves:

Yes, new. Think the open house was good. The staff and students there were very helpful and ready to answer our queries. We also went to the IP talk on the 7th floor. Under IP, they said all students need to take higher Mother Tongue and take that to sit for the compulsory \"O\" level HMT. That got me a little worried. Did you hear the same thing as I?

Yes

Did you go for the debate?

[sinoboy]

Melodies:

dimsum:

[quote=\"Melodies\"]
I don't have statistics but I can tell u many of them r prc!

With no statistics, how do you conclude that \"many of them r prc\"? I think we should refrain from making such baseless statements.

You go n ask those in Nanyang, they will tell you that. Many in Nanyang knows many of them are PRC but just don't have the exact figure to tell you lo as the school is not showing the data. I never said they are older kids but I just said many are PRC. 'Many' is subjective. To some it may not be many but to some, it may be many.[/quote]I assume you meant Nanyang Girls High and I agree with Many from PRC. Unless they came before P1, it can be assumed that they are older kids as many of them are admitted to a lower academic level when they join Singapore education system. A lot of them good in Chinese instruments if I am not wrong. But these are the smarter ones lah, there are also local girls from affiliated NYPS.

[stressedguy]

GLORYmum:

Hi all,


Have there been any discussion about the quality passes ?

Did moe instruct schools to downplay this information too??

I have been here for almost a whole day but see no discussion about the quality passes.In my opinion,MOE did not do so as it only prevented for publishing the Top scorers

[BlurBerry]

enoawng:

My understanding is that the grades are based on the raw scores.
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/parliamentary-replies/2010/07/reveal-psle-raw-scores.php

Thus grades are not normalized.

You just made my dd super duper happy. She just ran out of the room shouting \"Yay Yay Yay...\" and flapping her arms like crazy.

Reason? She's never gotten an A for English and Maths in school exams but got A for PSLE. I thought it was based on that adjusted scored (for calculating T-score). So now she's really really happy that she managed to do better than usual.

[clay569]

MeKiasuLeh:

wonderm:

[quote=\"ruohoo97\"]I read from other threads,(?) one parent suggested the possible reason this year having many scorers >265-276 is the easy papers, which cannot differentiate the high ability students. I tend to agree with this view.

If you look at the T-score computation formular, you would realize it is the opposite. When the papers are more difficult, the difference between the average mark and the very high marks are bigger, that will result in a higher top T-score (and more people having very high T-scores) compared to other years with easier papers. Whether the papers are hard or easy, the mean T-score should be the same, around 200.

@wonderm is correct that the mean T-score should be around 200. Read page 11 of this PDF document http://www.edgefieldpri.moe.edu.sg/wbn/slot/u2208/Parents_Link/Understanding%20PSLE%20T-scores.pdf[/quote]The percentage of quality passes (A and A*) for Chinese is 80.7% for 2011 psle. In relation to the bell curve, that means the population mean is probably in the range of 165/200?? That seems really high. And most students get that for Chinese???

Besides, then the std deviation will also be lower than other subjects by virtue that most data are squeezed within A/A* range. That means Chinese has a smaller effect on overall Tscore and thus less effect on differentiating the students?

What do you all think?

[Coolkidsrock2]

Desserts:

Those in the 23x range also went down. But my dd 's Malay friends did exceptionally well.

Hi cool kids, dh went to tkgs this morn, a hod said dd has no chance, partly because dd is not v active in cca and she has nothing much to showcase, exc a grade 3 piano cert. dd is a quiet person, So there goes tk.. Nw, we are thinking abt hai sing cat also.
Tks enoawng for shedding light about the mean score.

Hi Desserts, we were in TKGS and TKSS this morning. DD was active in CCA but not one offered by them so chances not high. There were some there, am guessing they are looking to appeal based on the questions asked.