PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion
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clay569:
The percentage of quality passes (A and A*) for Chinese is 80.7% for 2011 psle. In relation to the bell curve, that means the population mean is probably in the range of 165/200?? That seems really high. And most students get that for Chinese???
@wonderm is correct that the mean T-score should be around 200. Read page 11 of this PDF document http://www.edgefieldpri.moe.edu.sg/wbn/slot/u2208/Parents_Link/Understanding%20PSLE%20T-scores.pdfMeKiasuLeh:
[quote=\"wonderm\"]
If you look at the T-score computation formular, you would realize it is the opposite. When the papers are more difficult, the difference between the average mark and the very high marks are bigger, that will result in a higher top T-score (and more people having very high T-scores) compared to other years with easier papers. Whether the papers are hard or easy, the mean T-score should be the same, around 200.
Besides, then the std deviation will also be lower than other subjects by virtue that most data are squeezed within A/A* range. That means Chinese has a smaller effect on overall Tscore and thus less effect on differentiating the students?
What do you all think?[/quote]It may be a multimodal distribution tweaked such that T scores are grouped into different classes of students. If this makes sense. :scratchhead: -
***EVERY SCHOOL IS A GOOD SCHOOL***
It is possible! Make every secondary school as same (facilities, opportunities etc) as RI, maybe even use the same name....Then no one needs tuition 冲for psle and all entered happily. :imcool: -
I don't know if kids from RI don't go for tuition leh. :siam:
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BlurBerry:
Please be informed that the marks for subject grades, A (or any other grades) in PSLE is DIFFERENT
You just made my dd super duper happy. She just ran out of the room shouting \"Yay Yay Yay...\" and flapping her arms like crazy.enoawng:
My understanding is that the grades are based on the raw scores.
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/parliamentary-replies/2010/07/reveal-psle-raw-scores.php
Thus grades are not normalized.
Reason? She's never gotten an A for English and Maths in school exams but got A for PSLE. I thought it was based on that adjusted scored (for calculating T-score). So now she's really really happy that she managed to do better than usual.
from the marks specified in school exams.
That means grade A * is not necessary from 91 and grade A is not necessary from 75-90....and so forth.... -
I was so surprised when I received my results slip. I was expecting somewhere between a 190 to 200 and I performed much better than expected. I think I’m somewhat demoralised because in my school’s examinations, I tend to get really bad grades and such
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janet_lee88:
MKK:
It's getting more and more difficult to accept the results. Students who were performing so much lesser than her has outperformed her tremendously. What is wrong? Is it just exam luck? Should I get the papers to be assessed?
It's difficult but still have to accept.
What or where went wrong? Nobody knows...appealing may lead to something worse...so accept our lot and move on. Luck just was not with us then...we have done our best and so has the children.
My daughter who was a consistent performer since P1 and was always on school top 3 until p4 and top 1 in P5 only scored 252 + 2. She works so hard every year sacrificing even her play time and holidays. Her score was very shocking to all of us as we all surely expected her to score 260 + 2 and to be among school top 3 as many students this year worked extremely hard. It took us 3 days to recover from this shock and I keep consoling myself telling that I want to appeal. My daughter keeps telling she did her exams well. My dd's mother tongue is Tamil. I am a layman when it comes to T score calculation.
1. Will my dd's tamil t-score be affected if the bottom most ranked girl or boy scored quite low?.
2. Is there any use of appealing as someone here said that ' what if something opposite happens' ?. -
sujatha:
janet_lee88:
[quote=\"MKK\"]It's getting more and more difficult to accept the results. Students who were performing so much lesser than her has outperformed her tremendously. What is wrong? Is it just exam luck? Should I get the papers to be assessed?
It's difficult but still have to accept.
What or where went wrong? Nobody knows...appealing may lead to something worse...so accept our lot and move on. Luck just was not with us then...we have done our best and so has the children.
My daughter who was a consistent performer since P1 and was always on school top 3 until p4 and top 1 in P5 only scored 252 + 2. She works so hard every year sacrificing even her play time and holidays. Her score was very shocking to all of us as we all surely expected her to score 260 + 2 and to be among school top 3 as many students this year worked extremely hard. It took us 3 days to recover from this shock and I keep consoling myself telling that I want to appeal. My daughter keeps telling she did her exams well. My dd's mother tongue is Tamil. I am a layman when it comes to T score calculation.
1. Will my dd's tamil t-score be affected if the bottom most ranked girl or boy scored quite low?.
2. Is there any use of appealing as someone here said that ' what if something opposite happens' ?.[/quote]1. No.
2. Appealing would just reveal the truth to you. It may be a better t-score or a lower one. You just have to accept the reality. -
sujatha:
janet_lee88:
[quote=\"MKK\"]It's getting more and more difficult to accept the results. Students who were performing so much lesser than her has outperformed her tremendously. What is wrong? Is it just exam luck? Should I get the papers to be assessed?
It's difficult but still have to accept.
What or where went wrong? Nobody knows...appealing may lead to something worse...so accept our lot and move on. Luck just was not with us then...we have done our best and so has the children.
My daughter who was a consistent performer since P1 and was always on school top 3 until p4 and top 1 in P5 only scored 252 + 2. She works so hard every year sacrificing even her play time and holidays. Her score was very shocking to all of us as we all surely expected her to score 260 + 2 and to be among school top 3 as many students this year worked extremely hard. It took us 3 days to recover from this shock and I keep consoling myself telling that I want to appeal. My daughter keeps telling she did her exams well. My dd's mother tongue is Tamil. I am a layman when it comes to T score calculation.
1. Will my dd's tamil t-score be affected if the bottom most ranked girl or boy scored quite low?.
2. Is there any use of appealing as someone here said that ' what if something opposite happens' ?.[/quote]
Move on, give your child your best support. Let it be, focus the next phase of journey. Don't look back, move forward... -
AtoZ:
Agree!!!That's why MOE removed the bands of each secondary school so that there will not be any bias against the better schools***EVERY SCHOOL IS A GOOD SCHOOL***
It is possible! Make every secondary school as same (facilities, opportunities etc) as RI, maybe even use the same name....Then no one needs tuition 冲for psle and all entered happily. :imcool: -
http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5800
This link is for Victoria School's
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