PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion
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Layla:
By the way, I wonder why the parents of P6 students want to know about the stats since their children have already finished their exams and will be moving on to secondary school. It doesn't matter so much to them if the school doesn't do particularly well right? I would think that parents in other levels are more concern to know or parents in K2, looking to register their children into the school next year.[/quote]
I guess as parent of P6, I would like to know how my child has performed relative to her cohort. That is, if she gets 78 and the highest is 85, then I would know why...
Secondly, some of us have more than 1 child. AS such, I would like to know how my child fared (in comparision) and how I can improve if there is a need for my other child. :roll:[/quote]
That's my point. I find it more important for parents of children in other levels to know because then if the school doesn't do well then we can work with teachers to see how we can help our children. Or for eg if the school doesn't do well in Science, then we can get external help for Science. -
You mean your schools don’t release these stats to your P5 students and parents?
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My kids sch is one of those that does not release quality passes statistics to P5/P6 students. Maybe they do release during psle results day last yr (I don’t know), but definitely not this yr.
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Schools should release the stat to parents from all levels and not just to P5 parents. P1 parents need to know too so we can monitor the trend to decide the next course of action. For example, if consecutively for 2 years, quality passes for math is only 40% and this % never improve or worse still, has dropped, parents need to question the school what is the problem?? Is it problem with the P? HOD? Or teachers not strong or not motivated to teach? Or is it poor teaching materials?? Very important to know the root cause and improve. In worst scenario, some parents may also wish to transfer their children out from that school at P3 or P4. This may be a bit extreme but at least, parents knows early that external help is definitely required!!
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janet_lee88:
So that means sec and primary school is the same? Tutors, not teachers help child understand syllabus :faint: I am having my worries about son and whether he can cope with math and science. Die lah, 8-9 subjects.[/quote]Just a heads up!
I really wish this is the case. My boy who just finished Sec 1 this year - we had to get him a Math tutor halfway thru the year. And he improved significantly. And when I asked him why, he said he understands his tutor, but he doesn't understand his school teacher even when he approaches the teacher for clarification. And... his school teacher is always \"so busy\". Make appointment and 90% of the time don't turn up or is rushing to go off.phankao:
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So moving on, I really hope my son will get to enjoy his school :xedfingers: and TEACHERS WHO TEACH. I am not asking for too much right ?
Ultimately, this is the REASON why our kids go to school.
I think will need to get him a Science tutor soon too for Sec 2, so he can understand his school syllabus instead of bungling thru with school teachers.
*sigh*. when I was in sec sch, it was the school tr who helped me improve significantly. Not a tutor that we have to pay extra money to.
Math in sec1 is very similar to primary school.
The problem comes in a lot in sec2 when algebra comes in.
History, geography and literature is very closely linked to English itself.
A typical kid takes about 10 subjects in sec1-2 (not all at same time though) but you really shouldn't worry about tuition teachers, I'm sure there are really good teachers in school. In case that teacher is not available, there are many other teachers of the same subject/department available in that school too. Encourage your child to make friends with good friends so that they can each other too. -
teacher_girl:
Just a heads up!
So that means sec and primary school is the same? Tutors, not teachers help child understand syllabus :faint: I am having my worries about son and whether he can cope with math and science. Die lah, 8-9 subjects.janet_lee88:
[quote=\"phankao\"]
I really wish this is the case. My boy who just finished Sec 1 this year - we had to get him a Math tutor halfway thru the year. And he improved significantly. And when I asked him why, he said he understands his tutor, but he doesn't understand his school teacher even when he approaches the teacher for clarification. And... his school teacher is always \"so busy\". Make appointment and 90% of the time don't turn up or is rushing to go off.
I think will need to get him a Science tutor soon too for Sec 2, so he can understand his school syllabus instead of bungling thru with school teachers.
*sigh*. when I was in sec sch, it was the school tr who helped me improve significantly. Not a tutor that we have to pay extra money to.
Math in sec1 is very similar to primary school.
The problem comes in a lot in sec2 when algebra comes in. .[/quote]haha - then I must have rather stupid children then since at least 2 of my older ones find Sec 1 math difficult enough to fail badly. They do algebra from Term 1 of Sec 1, leh, not from Sec 2. -
History, Geog, literature are related to English…math and science included.
The English teacher who manned the booth at Hillgrove is very experienced and explained what is expected of sec 1s, books to read, components taught.
I hope he will be able to excel in the care of the teachers, if he is successfully posted there. -
Precious2.lee:
Schools should release the stat to parents from all levels and not just to P5 parents. P1 parents need to know too so we can monitor the trend to decide the next course of action. For example, if consecutively for 2 years, quality passes for math is only 40% and this % never improve or worse still, has dropped, parents need to question the school what is the problem?? Is it problem with the P? HOD? Or teachers not strong or not motivated to teach? Or is it poor teaching materials?? Very important to know the root cause and improve. In worst scenario, some parents may also wish to transfer their children out from that school at P3 or P4. This may be a bit extreme but at least, parents knows early that external help is definitely required!!
Maybe they see it coming hence not telling/informing you to save the explanation. -
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haha - then I must have rather stupid children then since at least 2 of my older ones find Sec 1 math difficult enough to fail badly. They do algebra from Term 1 of Sec 1, leh, not from Sec 2.[/quote]>
I'm sure it might just mean your child is weak in math for some areas!
Yes indeed, math algebra is taught in sec1, but it's the basics which is revised from p5 and up with a combination of new things, so it does get slightly confusing.
However in sec2, math is taught with algebra often in most chapters. Quadratic equations, angles, formulas, most of it...
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teacher_girl:
Well, they didn't understand in school. For my eldest, she continued to fail and then finally passed marginally at end of Sec 2 before we got her a tutor for Sec 3. Within 1 term, she went from marginal pass in sec 2 to A1. After 2 terms, she could handle the math on her own already and no longer used that tutor. That same thing happened to me from Lower Sec to Upper Sec, except that in my time 30+yrs ago, it was my school teacher who did that magic and not an external tutor.
I'm sure it might just mean your child is weak in math for some areas!
Yes indeed, math algebra is taught in sec1, but it's the basics which is revised from p5 and up with a combination of new things, so it does get slightly confusing.
However in sec2, math is taught with algebra often in most chapters. Quadratic equations, angles, formulas, most of it...
Hope that helps
Anyway, for our younger one, when he was having problems in math in Sec 1, we didn't wait until Sec 3 to get him a tutor like his sister, but had him started with one by 2nd half of the sec 1 year. Improvement was significant. *sigh* wonder what's wrong with the teachers in school. His tutor also ex-school teacher wat. Tutor says it's bc in school it's a class of 30-40. In the tuition setting, it's 1-to-1, sure to understand and improve.
Maybe if the school teachers are dedicated enough to provide individual attention to weak students, it would be better. But we've so far only experienced teachers that agree to help, but don't make good the appointments made.
I think school teachers too bogged down by too many commitments., compared to private tutors.
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