MOE to stop publishing names of top students?
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Do away with the hearsay ?
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wonderm:
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But about having a robust education system that wins.
I too am of the view that education system needs more than mere tweaking . Some fundamental changes need to be made (not just in singapore but most other countries too). But that has to be a well thought out and implemented with care and gradually rather than have some drastic popular measures. this particualr change of not naming top schlars is like you say superficial too.
I also differ in the view that competition has to be kept at bay to improve the system. Far from it. Healthy competition motivates kids. And bringing in foreign competition spurs the local kids and makes them see beyond themselves. Better to face them on the home ground.
I am more like keep parents (including me) out, they are the ones who twist the arms of the education system to benefit their darlings. They are the ones who are piling pressure. But MOE should strategize to handle them. How to devise a system so that parents are not feeling threatened , so that they stop spending most of their home time making life tough for the children , so that good education can take place . No mean task that.
Honestly most of us are short sighted. Low Marks in an exam in lower primary makes us go balistic. We are really losing the big picture. One mark here or one mark there. One not so good teacher. A foreign student who has such a strong language skill that our child pales in comparison. Petty issues. many really feel hurt when such things happen. Our emotions as a parent clouds our judgement of the system. We can rant and grumble. But not many have the wisdom to look beyond \"me and my child\", so our rants should be taken with a vat of salt.
It is indeed difficult to step back and keep prespective. That has always been a problem with parenting. What should I do -am I over reacting ? Am i under reacting? Am I going to regret this later?
So MOE has an uphill task of keeping parents as partners in education yet detached enough not to get too involved to take things personally. Besides the huge task of steering education to cater to a very different kind of future
Our opinions help. More so backed by concrete data. Because hearsay data is coloured heavily by our emotions. And that distorts reality.
That is all I am saying.
I believe all of us here are concerned for our children n the future generations. My wish is that in whatever schemes or policies MOE will make in the future, it will not give more advantage to the cream of the crop at the expense of the weaker students.
It took many years for the government to finally give more funding to special education students after years of lobbying. Singapore needs to be pragmatic for economic reasons but it is time we also grow into a gracious society where we give helps to the weaker ones.
Take a good look at the Educational system in Finland.
3rd Nov in the \"Today\" newspaper, there was a very enlightening article in page 12 to 14 entitling \" Why are Finland's schools successful?\". Globally, their students ranked second in Science, third in Reading and sixth in Maths in 2009. And yet their students do not have mandatory standard exams up to age 16!
What really impresses me is that in their educational system, all students of varying abilities are taught in the same classroom and special attention is given to the weaker ones by special education teachers. This really revealed a sharp contrast with our country's approach to education which gives (knowingly or unknowingly) greater advantages to the brighter students.
Their approach to equality in education reminds me of a passage in the Holy Bible which emphasizes that the stronger parts of the body must give greater honor and care to the weaker parts of the body so that the whole body can function in unity and concern for one another.
1Corinthians 12:21 to 26 :
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. -
Twinkies:
Do away with the hearsay ?
Not hearsay but it was published previously in the newspaper. Newspaper can report something that is not true meh?
Please share more to clarify the situation then -
Melodies:
yes, HUNDREDS EACH, if you don't believe, here are the numbers to call :-
Are you saying 'The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH for those O level students to get into these top JCs (then, will be thousands vacancies in those top JCs since so many JCs)? You sure? Why so many O level students cried foul every year. some said, they got 0 point for O level still can't get in RI ? huh? :? :? :?
I'm interested to know the situation as I don't have dc who has done O level.
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Melodies:
Twinkies:
Do away with the hearsay ?
Not hearsay but it was published previously in the newspaper. Newspaper can report something that is not true meh?
Please share more to clarify the situation then
Please share more to clarify the situation then, please provide the link to the newspapers news clips? -
david59:
:goodpost: Yes! Ways to go.. :rahrah: :rahrah:
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I believe all of us here are concerned for our children n the future generations. My wish is that in whatever schemes or policies MOE will make in the future, it will not give more advantage to the cream of the crop at the expense of the weaker students.
It took many years for the government to finally give more funding to special education students after years of lobbying. Singapore needs to be pragmatic for economic reasons but it is time we also grow into a gracious society where we give helps to the weaker ones.
Take a good look at the Educational system in Finland.
3rd Nov in the \"Today\" newspaper, there was a very enlightening article in page 12 to 14 entitling \" Why are Finland's schools successful?\". Globally, their students ranked second in Science, third in Reading and sixth in Maths in 2009. And yet their students do not have mandatory standard exams up to age 16!
What really impresses me is that in their educational system, all students of varying abilities are taught in the same classroom and special attention is given to the weaker ones by special education teachers. This really revealed a sharp contrast with our country's approach to education which gives (knowingly or unknowingly) greater advantages to the brighter students.
Their approach to equality in education reminds me of a passage in the Holy Bible which emphasizes that the stronger parts of the body must give greater honor and care to the weaker parts of the body so that the whole body can function in unity and concern for one another.
1Corinthians 12:21 to 26 :
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. -
You claim, you prove
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jtoh:
The figure is no secret. However, you may have reservation to reveal because of .... Anyway, I remembered it is something like 400, 400, 400 for ... About 100 goes to DSA, leaving about 300 for O level results. Correct me if I am wrong.I'm well aware of the situation of IP schools. Are you? Do you know the number of vacancies available at each JC for O level intake? The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH, as much as other JCs which have affliated students or who are not IP. In other words, there are plenty of vacancies at these top JCs. You just have to be the best to get in bec all the top O students want in as well.
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Accountability, not just infesting this site with hearsay, or spreading hearsay?
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Twinkies:
You claim, you prove
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