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    MOE to stop publishing names of top students?

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      Melodies
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      九阳神功:
      Melodies:

      [quote=\"Twinkies\"]Do away with the hearsay ?


      Not hearsay but it was published previously in the newspaper. Newspaper can report something that is not true meh?

      Please share more to clarify the situation then

      http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20100219-199740.html[/quote]九阳神功 :udaman: :udaman: :udaman:

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        Twinkies
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        九阳神功:
        Melodies:

        [quote=\"Twinkies\"]Do away with the hearsay ?


        Not hearsay but it was published previously in the newspaper. Newspaper can report something that is not true meh?

        Please share more to clarify the situation then

        http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20100219-199740.html[/quote]Hmmmm.... Failed to get into their 1st choice JC.... Not no JC?!
        Maybe MOE has to close down all JCs but leave only one most popular one so that everyone get there ? Fair proposal ?

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          Twinkies
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          Failed getting into 1st choice JC, means what huh?


          Other did too well?
          Too many people did too well?
          Everyone has the same 1st Choice JC?
          1st choice JC not big enough?
          1st choice JC discriminating?

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            Twinkies
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            Singaporean find it hard to live with occasionally 2nd choice?


            Really that bad?

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              bupashu
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              Twinkies:
              Failed getting into 1st choice JC, means what huh?


              Other did too well?
              Too many people did too well?
              Everyone has the same 1st Choice JC?
              1st choice JC not big enough?
              1st choice JC discriminating?
              it simply means sour grapes

              that student should have gotten just one more A1 instead of an A2

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                Melodies
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                atutor2001:
                jtoh:

                I'm well aware of the situation of IP schools. Are you? Do you know the number of vacancies available at each JC for O level intake? The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH, as much as other JCs which have affliated students or who are not IP. In other words, there are plenty of vacancies at these top JCs. You just have to be the best to get in bec all the top O students want in as well.

                The figure is no secret. However, you may have reservation to reveal because of .... Anyway, I remembered it is something like 400, 400, 400 for ... About 100 goes to DSA, leaving about 300 for O level results. Correct me if I am wrong. 😂


                Hi atutor2001, could you shed some lights why there are some O level students with very good grades but still can't get in those top JC's ? O level students (with Six A1s and four A2s for o level) can't do as well as those IP students in HCI? Anyone care to share how O level students do as compared to those IP students in A level?

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                  bupashu
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                  Twinkies:
                  Singaporean find it hard to live with occasionally 2nd choice?


                  Really that bad?
                  to THEM, it is either my way or the byway

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                    Melodies:
                    Hi atutor2001, could you shed some lights why there are some O level students with very good grades but still can't get in those top JC's ? students with Six A1s and four A2s can't do as well as those existing IP students?

                    No statistics to back up but just based on some sad cases I came across where kids joined top JC through prelim results (a practice in the past) but have to leave after O level results.

                    Ranking using O level results is based on L1R5 where L1 is English. Most can get 5 points for R5 easily but not the L1. A grade 2 for L1 means goodbye for top JC because there are many 6 pointers for L1R5.

                    Next is CCA, Higher Chinese and 3rd Lang. These are what I called \"deductibles\". A 6 pointer for L1R5 may not secure a place if they do not have outstanding deductibles.

                    Above are purely my personal perception of the situation. Therefore, though 6A1 and 4A2 is a good result, when compared to the entire O level cohort, (especially if the L1 is A2) it may not be good enough for the Top JCs.

                    It is that competitive at O level. Probably that is why GEP, PSLE is so important to many who wants to secure a place in top JC through IP.

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                      wonderm
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                      Melodies:

                      Are you saying 'The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH for those O level students to get into these top JCs (then, will be thousands vacancies in those top JCs since so many JCs)? You sure? Why so many O level students cried foul every year. some said, they got 0 point for O level still can't get in RI ? huh? :? :? :?

                      I'm interested to know the situation as I don't have dc who has done O level.
                      The highlighted-in-red part can't be true, right? The minimun points for 6 subjects before bonus points is 6. Max bonus pts is 4. So lowest possible points is 2. How can anyone possibily get 0 point? and can't get into RI?

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                        Melodies
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                        atutor2001:
                        Melodies:

                        Hi atutor2001, could you shed some lights why there are some O level students with very good grades but still can't get in those top JC's ? students with Six A1s and four A2s can't do as well as those existing IP students?


                        No statistics to back up but just based on some sad cases I came across where kids joined top JC through prelim results (a practice in the past) but have to leave after O level results.

                        Ranking using O level results is based on L1R5 where L1 is English. Most can get 5 points for R5 easily but not the L1. A grade 2 for L1 means goodbye for top JC because there are many 6 pointers for L1R5.

                        Next is CCA, Higher Chinese and 3rd Lang. These are what I called \"deductibles\". A 6 pointer for L1R5 may not secure a place if they do not have outstanding deductibles.

                        Above are purely my personal perception of the situation. Therefore, though 6A1 and 4A2 is a good result, when compared to the entire O level cohort, (especially if the L1 is A2) it may not be good enough for the Top JCs.

                        It is that competitive at O level. Probably that is why GEP, PSLE is so important to many who wants to secure a place in top JC through IP.

                        :faint: After PSLE, we are not done with it! Those late boomers can't make it for IP schools, the competition is even steeper @ O levels! :yikes:

                        Anyone care to share how O level students do as compared to those IP students in A level?

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