MOE to stop publishing names of top students?

[cherryc]

atutor2001:

Ranking using O level results is based on L1R5 where L1 is English. Most can get 5 points for R5 easily but not the L1. A grade 2 for L1 means goodbye for top JC because there are many 6 pointers for L1R5.

It is that competitive at O level. Probably that is why GEP, PSLE is so important to many who wants to secure a place in top JC through IP.

Thanks for sharing ! It makes me shudder as I would not been able to admit to my alma mater if I am born in this era as I would have missed by 1 pt !!

Anyway, O levels English is not that easy to get A1 and to think that the IP students do not need to get into the top JCs with top grade in English (by using DSA or PSLE overall score previously) only doesn't seem to be very fair……..

[CayennePepper]

:skeptical:

[Melodies]

CayennePepper


R u willing to give up the few top JCs and settle with second tier JC?
R u willing to support the idea of competing based on PSLE results for top IP schools?
R u willing to support the idea of getting rid of DSA for GEP domains?
R u willing to support that everyone should compete based on the same ground?

己所不欲，勿施于人

CayennePepper:

For heaven's sake, why are so many parents fixated on getting into a few JCs?!

Here's a FACT -- more than one in four students from each Primary One cohort obtains a place in one of Singapore’s publicly-funded universities.*

Check out the number of university intakes each year versus the number of students in JCs.

Do the math.

* Refer:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/feedback/2011/committee-on-university-education-pathways-beyond-2015/singapore-university-landscape/

[CayennePepper]

Melodies:

CayennePepper


R u willing to give up the few top JCs and settle with second tier JC?
R u willing to support the idea of competing based on PSLE results for top IP schools?

CayennePepper:

For heaven's sake, why are so many parents fixated on getting into a few JCs?!

Here's a FACT -- more than one in four students from each Primary One cohort obtains a place in one of Singapore’s publicly-funded universities.*

Check out the number of university intakes each year versus the number of students in JCs.

Do the math.

* Refer:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/feedback/2011/committee-on-university-education-pathways-beyond-2015/singapore-university-landscape/

CayennePepper actually doesn't care one way or other, believe it or not. :evil:
To her, education is not about competition. And she is confident that her kids will get educated in whichever institution they end up in. Cos, you know, all schools are EQUAL! (or is it GOOD huh).
:rahrah:

[Melodies]

excellent!


I'm glad that Singapore is a gracious society after all! :rahrah:

CayennePepper:

Melodies:

CayennePepper

R u willing to give up the few top JCs and settle with second tier JC?
R u willing to support the idea of competing based on PSLE results for top IP schools?


[quote=\"CayennePepper\"]For heaven's sake, why are so many parents fixated on getting into a few JCs?!

Here's a FACT -- more than one in four students from each Primary One cohort obtains a place in one of Singapore’s publicly-funded universities.*

Check out the number of university intakes each year versus the number of students in JCs.

Do the math.

* Refer:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/feedback/2011/committee-on-university-education-pathways-beyond-2015/singapore-university-landscape/

CayennePepper actually doesn't care one way or other, believe it or not. :evil:
To her, education is not about competition. And she is confident that her kids will get educated in whichever institution they end up in. Cos, you know, all schools are EQUAL! (or is it GOOD huh).
:rahrah:[/quote]

[CayennePepper]

Melodies:

CayennePepper


R u willing to give up the few top JCs and settle with second tier JC?
R u willing to support the idea of competing based on PSLE results for top IP schools?
R u willing to support the idea of getting rid of DSA for GEP domains?
R u willing to support that everyone should compete based on the same ground?

己所不欲，勿施于人

Just saw your edits.
I really don't care if there's DSA for GEP domain or not. You know, not all schools that offer DSA have that particular domain. In fact you can count those that do on one hand, I think.
I also don't think there are only a few schools worth going to!

[CayennePepper]

Melodies:

excellent!


I'm glad that Singapore is a gracious society after all! :rahrah:

You had doubts?!
I can't think why.

[bupashu]

atutor2001:

Melodies:

Hi atutor2001, could you shed some lights why there are some O level students with very good grades but still can't get in those top JC's ? students with Six A1s and four A2s can't do as well as those existing IP students?

No statistics to back up but just based on some sad cases I came across where kids joined top JC through prelim results (a practice in the past) but have to leave after O level results.

Ranking using O level results is based on L1R5 where L1 is English. Most can get 5 points for R5 easily but not the L1. A grade 2 for L1 means goodbye for top JC because there are many 6 pointers for L1R5.

Next is CCA, Higher Chinese and 3rd Lang. These are what I called \"deductibles\". A 6 pointer for L1R5 may not secure a place if they do not have outstanding deductibles.

Above are purely my personal perception of the situation. Therefore, though 6A1 and 4A2 is a good result, when compared to the entire O level cohort, (especially if the L1 is A2) it may not be good enough for the Top JCs.

It is that competitive at O level. Probably that is why GEP, PSLE is so important to many who wants to secure a place in top JC through IP.

the deductibles are (1) 2 points for affiliation, (2) 2 points for higher mother tongue/CLEP, not only Chinese, and (3) 2 points for CCA

max deduction allowed is 4 points

[Melodies]

CayennePepper:

Melodies:

excellent!


I'm glad that Singapore is a gracious society after all! :rahrah:

You had doubts?!
I can't think why.

faint: I'm happy and cheering!
You read too much out of proportion. :snuggles:

[bupashu]

wonderm:

Melodies:

Are you saying 'The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH for those O level students to get into these top JCs (then, will be thousands vacancies in those top JCs since so many JCs)? You sure? Why so many O level students cried foul every year. some said, they got 0 point for O level still can't get in RI ? huh? :? :? :?

I'm interested to know the situation as I don't have dc who has done O level.

The highlighted-in-red part can't be true, right? The minimun points for 6 subjects before bonus points is 6. Max bonus pts is 4. So lowest possible points is 2. How can anyone possibily get 0 point? and can't get into RI?

that is called anyhow say lah