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    MOE to stop publishing names of top students?

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    • C Offline
      CayennePepper
      last edited by

      Melodies:
      CayennePepper


      R u willing to give up the few top JCs and settle with second tier JC?
      R u willing to support the idea of competing based on PSLE results for top IP schools?
      R u willing to support the idea of getting rid of DSA for GEP domains?
      R u willing to support that everyone should compete based on the same ground?

      己所不欲,勿施于人
      Just saw your edits.
      I really don't care if there's DSA for GEP domain or not. You know, not all schools that offer DSA have that particular domain. In fact you can count those that do on one hand, I think.
      I also don't think there are only a few schools worth going to!

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        CayennePepper
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        Melodies:
        excellent!


        I'm glad that Singapore is a gracious society after all! :rahrah:
        You had doubts?!
        I can't think why.

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          bupashu
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          atutor2001:
          Melodies:

          Hi atutor2001, could you shed some lights why there are some O level students with very good grades but still can't get in those top JC's ? students with Six A1s and four A2s can't do as well as those existing IP students?


          No statistics to back up but just based on some sad cases I came across where kids joined top JC through prelim results (a practice in the past) but have to leave after O level results.

          Ranking using O level results is based on L1R5 where L1 is English. Most can get 5 points for R5 easily but not the L1. A grade 2 for L1 means goodbye for top JC because there are many 6 pointers for L1R5.

          Next is CCA, Higher Chinese and 3rd Lang. These are what I called \"deductibles\". A 6 pointer for L1R5 may not secure a place if they do not have outstanding deductibles.

          Above are purely my personal perception of the situation. Therefore, though 6A1 and 4A2 is a good result, when compared to the entire O level cohort, (especially if the L1 is A2) it may not be good enough for the Top JCs.

          It is that competitive at O level. Probably that is why GEP, PSLE is so important to many who wants to secure a place in top JC through IP.

          the deductibles are (1) 2 points for affiliation, (2) 2 points for higher mother tongue/CLEP, not only Chinese, and (3) 2 points for CCA

          max deduction allowed is 4 points

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            Melodies
            last edited by

            CayennePepper:
            Melodies:

            excellent!


            I'm glad that Singapore is a gracious society after all! :rahrah:

            You had doubts?!
            I can't think why.

            faint: I'm happy and cheering!
            You read too much out of proportion. :snuggles:

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              bupashu
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              wonderm:
              Melodies:


              Are you saying 'The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH for those O level students to get into these top JCs (then, will be thousands vacancies in those top JCs since so many JCs)? You sure? Why so many O level students cried foul every year. some said, they got 0 point for O level still can't get in RI ? huh? :? :? :?

              I'm interested to know the situation as I don't have dc who has done O level.

              The highlighted-in-red part can't be true, right? The minimun points for 6 subjects before bonus points is 6. Max bonus pts is 4. So lowest possible points is 2. How can anyone possibily get 0 point? and can't get into RI?

              that is called anyhow say lah

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                CayennePepper
                last edited by

                bupashu:


                the deductibles are (1) 2 points for affiliation, (2) 2 points for higher mother tongue/CLEP, not only Chinese, and (3) 2 points for CCA

                max deduction allowed is 4 points
                I was wondering if there's also -2 for affiliation!
                Then can obtain ZERO.

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                  Nebbermind
                  last edited by

                  CayennePepper:
                  bupashu:



                  the deductibles are (1) 2 points for affiliation, (2) 2 points for higher mother tongue/CLEP, not only Chinese, and (3) 2 points for CCA

                  max deduction allowed is 4 points

                  I was wondering if there's also -2 for affiliation!
                  Then can obtain ZERO.

                  The top 2 JC no affiliation leh.

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                    Nebbermind
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                    bupashu:
                    wonderm:

                    [quote=\"Melodies\"]
                    Are you saying 'The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH for those O level students to get into these top JCs (then, will be thousands vacancies in those top JCs since so many JCs)? You sure? Why so many O level students cried foul every year. some said, they got 0 point for O level still can't get in RI ? huh? :? :? :?

                    I'm interested to know the situation as I don't have dc who has done O level.

                    The highlighted-in-red part can't be true, right? The minimun points for 6 subjects before bonus points is 6. Max bonus pts is 4. So lowest possible points is 2. How can anyone possibily get 0 point? and can't get into RI?

                    that is called anyhow say lah[/quote]You are brave!

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                      Twinkies
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                      R u willing to give up the few top JCs and settle with second tier JC?

                      – Absolutely YES!

                      R u willing to support the idea of competing based on PSLE results for top IP schools?
                      – Absolutely YES.

                      R u willing to support the idea of getting rid of DSA for GEP domains?
                      – No; no reason it should be…

                      R u willing to support that everyone should compete based on the same ground?
                      – X ; different people holds different view of "based on the same ground". To some people, it could only meant:- absolute levelled ground.

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                        jtoh
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                        Melodies:
                        jtoh:

                        [quote=\"Melodies\"]
                        Have you considered the situation that some schools are already filled up with existing IP students and have no vacancy for those bright students who have scored well in O level? It is true to some extent.

                        I'm well aware of the situation of IP schools. Are you? Do you know the number of vacancies available at each JC for O level intake? The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH, as much as other JCs which have affliated students or who are not IP. In other words, there are plenty of vacancies at these top JCs. You just have to be the best to get in bec all the top O students want in as well.

                        Are you saying 'The number of vacancies available at these top JCs number in the HUNDREDS EACH for those O level students to get into these top JCs (then, will be thousands vacancies in those top JCs since so many JCs)? You sure? Why so many O level students cried foul every year. some said, they got low point for O level still can't get in RI ? huh? :? :? :?

                        I'm interested to know the situation as I don't have dc who has done O level.[/quote]I've just come home and read thru the forum. A number of forumers have already addressed your concerns. And I note that you've also changed the '0' points (which is impossible) to 'low'.

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