MOE to stop publishing names of top students?
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Sun_2010:
It's a real joke isn't it?
After all the generalizations and sweeping statements , not a single hard fact to support it , not even rough statistics , you have the verve to talk about sheer ignorance and ulterior motives. Seriously :slapshead:sinoboy:
It is painful to be told the truth. People get very defensive and abuses starts coming up especially when those who that have benefited from an exploit is uncovered and attempts are made to close off the exploits.
Talk about GEP,
GEPpers parents ( Directed at the whole group) starts to say my kid is smart what. Talk about DSA, they say fair what just a bit slow only.
Talk about ASEAN scholar, because we Singaporeans no brains...
Can you show more than one post that states this to make sweeping statements?
This is but a very small sample of the defensive voices. Wait till the parents come back from their year end holidays.
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sinoboy:
LOL. You have left out the real reason. MOE wants parents to believe that all primary and secondary schools are good schools. By not disclosing scores, parents would lose the ability to compare and therefore by not knowing, they will not be stressed into thinking that they and their kids have been short-changed by signing up with a second rate school.I have a HOT mcq question: Why the top students cannot be named. Is it because:
A. There are 46,249.62 parents (at a 95% confidence level) very stressed by the PSLE exams.
B. The top scorers may be from hot GEP and may already got CO DSA Academic into a top IP school and parents may ask to have that same unfair advantage.
C. Public may ask if our country doesn't have brains and may start asking for hard data to support the claims?
D. Parents feel their 12 year old kids are more childish than other kids taking PSLE.
E. All of the above.
Ans: :censored:
The goal (of reducing parental stress) is noble. The execution (by removing information) is left wanting. -
ChiefKiasu:
Yes, perhaps those are the \"hard truths\" that parents would have to accept going forward.
LOL. You have left out the real reason. MOE wants parents to believe that all primary and secondary schools are good schools. By not disclosing scores, parents would lose the ability to compare and therefore by not knowing, they will not be stressed into thinking that they and their kids have been short-changed by signing up with a second rate school.
The goal (of reducing parental stress) is noble. The execution (by removing information) is left wanting. -
Chief,
It's ok lah, parents will con't to share the scores here :evil:
Plus with COP, availability of top school papers, parents will not be totally in the dark :evil: -
this move for not publishing top PSLE scholar has let this forum become more popular coz more ppl can still come here to find out although it is unofficial…
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I have a Simple LOT question. Just trying to understand.
If I am from the mainstream and have obtained a CO from a top IP school via the academc domain (smops/olympiads etc), is that considered an unfair advantage? -
KSP:
this move for not publishing top PSLE scholar has let this forum become more popular coz more ppl can still come here to find out although it is unofficial....
More advertisements opportunities? :evil: :evil: :evil: -
CayennePepper:
I can try to answer thisI have a Simple LOT question. Just trying to understand.
If I am from the mainstream and have obtained a CO from a top IP school via the academc domain (smops/olympiads etc), is that considered an unfair advantage?
Yes. Cos you have & I dun have.
Yes. ESP if your score did not make it to the COP & I deserve the seat more if my score higher than yours.
:siam:
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CayennePepper:
You forgot to add more infor. Got SAHP. parents or not ? Got tuition/enrichment or not? :rotflmao:I have a Simple LOT question. Just trying to understand.
If I am from the mainstream and have obtained a CO from a top IP school via the academc domain (smops/olympiads etc), is that considered an unfair advantage? :siam:
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slmkhoo:
Oh, yeah, thanks for pointing this out. Just trying to view from perspective of what's FAIRNESS up this path of Education and streaming... Just thinking out loud for the sake of it -
I think you mixed up the 2? The older one is the one who will be taking the longer, less stressful route.concern2:
Question: If your older child had cried \"not fair\", she has to take so much challenges, while the younger not, and the younger one cries \"not fair\", the older one gets so many 'privileges' while she has to take a longer route, what would you say to them?
I think each and everyone of us would have our own answers.
The younger one has queried the difference, and we have had to tell her that the one who is given more ability should make full use of that ability. We don't really push her, but try to motivate her to push herself. She knows she finds schoolwork easier than her sister, and so far she finds it interesting enough to keep herself going. The older one is just grateful that we aren't pushing her to make the sort of grades that would get her into 'top' schools! She is already working quite hard but still struggles with normal level work, especially maths. She does have a non-schoolwork interest which we try to encourage too.
From the time they were small, even before starting school, we saw the difference, so we have always been careful not to compare them directly. We emphasise that every person in made differently, and we must make the best of what we have without either pride or envy. They have a good relationship, and each is happy when the other achieves their goals, which could be 100% for the younger one and 60% for the older one. So far they haven't accused us of unfairness.
FAIRNESS in this context should be about equal opportunities for all if each has the ability to pursue what is available, rather than each one having the SAME things. So in essence, 2 students with equal abilities should have same choices available to them. When resources are limited, perhaps, one cannot afford to give out the same things - it doesn't maximise the use of resources, hence only if one can meet certain criteria, one gets to enjoy those. Like one having more appetite be given more food and to have the same amount of food given to everyone means wasting on those with small appetite. Yes?
Believe it or not, many parents do not want to accept the fact that children's abilities differ. They believe they can do something about it - although it can be true too - many believe that if the kids have the best teachers, the best books, the best this and that, there is no reason why they can't be the best. And the younger they start having the best of everything, the farther they will get ahead of their peers. This may be true, but it is not always the case.
This is what I'm trying to say. Same parents, but children differ in abilities. My own children also differ in abilities. One may not be superior to the other because each have different abilities. They are just different, not necessarily better or worse.
Coming back to the context of education, thus far, it favours those who are academically inclined. If seeing from point of view of parent, it also doesn't make sense to hide the grades of one child from the other just to make the other child less stressful. However, if the parents take similar pride in each child's strength, it would create that sense of EQUALITY that each is value in their own ways. For a start, it would perhaps make the academically weaker child more confident in his own abilities (in whichever field he is good at) and feel he is not disadvantaged because of his academic incompetence. Similarly, perhaps it would not give the academically stronger child the ya-ya feeling that just because he is good academically, he superior in every other way.
Just my thoughts.
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