PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion

[rains]

hoskins8h:

rains:

In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Thanks rains, do you happen to have the average t-score for 2010 and 2009?

Mean t-score for:

2009 - 238.2
2010 - 240.4

Some people were surprised that ny has 47% of its students getting 250 and above this year, but actually ny's record is such that it has more than 40% of its students getting 250 and above every year, even 7 years ago when I was trying to decide if ny was indeed a 'good' school. But that doesn't mean that it does not have students who go to Normal stream.

[rains]

mummy so kiasu:

Hi rains, Most people are aware that this year national top scorer is from NYPS, GEP (285) Any idea what is the score of NYPS mainstream top scorer?

I'm sorry but I don't have the info. Actually the school didn't even reveal that the top score of the school was 285. It's mostly through the words of the kids who pass the info around. And because the school doesn't advocate drawing a clear line between GEP and non-GEP, all the more it won't break results down to GEP vs non-GEP for the parents altho I'm sure they would do it for internal circulation and diagnosis. My kid's class top score is 270, so the lowest possible top score for non-gep would be around 270+.

[rains]

mummy so kiasu:

rains:

Getting all Bs and hoping to get into hwa chong would be a tall order, in my opinion. Ny has no affiliation with hwa chong. Unless his child is doing well in school, I'm curious why your brother said that his child will do better.

He is aware that 45% of NYPS kids score 250 & above as well as the national top scorer is from NYPS (285) Maybe he has forgotten a very important fact. The top scorer is from GEP whereas his son is from the mainstream.

Maybe his son is in one of the better mainstream classes? If his son always gets 85 and above for all subjects, then perhaps he has good grounds to say that his son will do better at psle - provided nothing goes wrong during psle.

But I always feel that 不到最后关头, nobody can tell.

I did something very stupid right after the maths paper. I went to the psle maths thread and collated all the correct answers given by the parents and students, and did the most horrible thing - tallied them with my kid's answers. She got many of them wrong. It demoralized her and myself greatly and affected her mood in preparing for the other three papers.

But fortunately, it turned out fine and other children who got most answers correct also got the same grade as her.

Nobody can really tell what will happen at psle.

[janet88]

rains:

mummy so kiasu:

[quote=\"rains\"]
Getting all Bs and hoping to get into hwa chong would be a tall order, in my opinion. Ny has no affiliation with hwa chong. Unless his child is doing well in school, I'm curious why your brother said that his child will do better.

He is aware that 45% of NYPS kids score 250 & above as well as the national top scorer is from NYPS (285) Maybe he has forgotten a very important fact. The top scorer is from GEP whereas his son is from the mainstream.

But I always feel that 不到最后关头, nobody can tell.

Nobody can really tell what will happen at psle.[/quote]This is VERY TRUE...nobody knows what will happen. I know of this student who did very well during prelims...Math was perfect score...the other subjects were close to stars...but don't know what happened...PSLE results did not turn out that way. Totally devastating. Nobody knows what can happen on the actual day of the exams...that is how scary it can be.

[mummy so kiasu]

rains:

Maybe his son is in one of the better mainstream classes? If his son always gets 85 and above for all subjects, perhaps he has good grounds to say that his son will do better at psle - provided nothing goes wrong during psle.

My nephew is in the middle class of NYPS mainstream. My brother uses cash reward to motivate his son. The boy will get cash reward if he could get A for his test. My boy is an average kid & he gets 250 for his PSLE this year. But my brother told me that his boy from NYPS will do better than my boy. Since a neighbourhood school's kid could get 250 then 258 to get into HCI is easy.

[phtthp]

your son got 250.

in the end, what did your brother’s son (NYPS) get ?

how did yr brother react ?

[hoskins8h]

rains:

hoskins8h:

[quote=\"rains\"]

In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Thanks rains, do you happen to have the average t-score for 2010 and 2009?

Mean t-score for:

2009 - 238.2
2010 - 240.4

Some people were surprised that ny has 47% of its students getting 250 and above this year, but actually ny's record is such that it has more than 40% of its students getting 250 and above every year, even 7 years ago when I was trying to decide if ny was indeed a 'good' school. But that doesn't mean that it does not have students who go to Normal stream.[/quote]rains, many thanks, really appreciate it.

[mummy so kiasu]

phtthp:

your son got 250.

in the end, what did your brother's son (NYPS) get ?

how did yr brother react ?

My brother's son is going to take his PSLE this year. He stays in north east & drives him son to NYPS everyday. He does not want his kid to go to neighbourhood school & prefer the boy to mix with kids from well to do families. Are all schools good schools?

[mummy so kiasu]

rains:

mummy so kiasu:

Hi rains, Most people are aware that this year national top scorer is from NYPS, GEP (285) Any idea what is the score of NYPS mainstream top scorer?

I'm sorry but I don't have the info. Actually the school didn't even reveal that the top score of the school was 285. It's mostly through the words of the kids who pass the info around. And because the school doesn't advocate drawing a clear line between GEP and non-GEP, all the more it won't break results down to GEP vs non-GEP for the parents altho I'm sure they would do it for internal circulation and diagnosis. My kid's class top score is 270, so the lowest possible top score for non-gep would be around 270+.

Thanks for your information. My boy's school top scorer gets 276 but only 15% get 250 & above. I think more than half of 47% who score 250 & above are from GEP.

[rains]

mummy so kiasu:

Thanks for your information. My boy's school top scorer gets 276 but only 15% get 250 & above. I think more than half of 47% who score 250 & above are from GEP.

I think I answered that question earlier in the thread:

234 students (47%) got 250 and above.
If we assume that all Geppers (100 students) got 250 and above, ny still has 134 students (34%) from the mainstream who got 250 and above.

Sounds like your son's school is not exactly a 'neighbourhood school' by most people's definition. 15% getting 250 and above is a very good percentage. I believe most 'neighbourhood schools' do not have such numbers of kids getting 250 and above.

As far as I know, there are many children who qualified for GEP but chose not to go for it. I'm just wondering if the top scorer who got 276 could have been one of them? 276 is not an easy feat for any kid without the natural giftedness. So far, whenever I hear of kids from neighbourhood schools who get such scores, they always fall into that category.