Punggol East By-Election coming ? MP steps down

[toddles]

concern2:

toddles:

... Whereas all the PAP folks come across as mouthing lines, reluctant-type candidates...

Reminds me of what SL said about the good doctor, \"Anyway from today’s papers, he initially said No to the Prime Minister, meaning he was not too keen to stand in Punggol East in the first place.\" :faint:

It's not just him either. Look across the new faces introduced in GE 2011. Who amongst them have real fire in their belly? They all look pretty meek.

It's the WP candidates and new faces (even those at the recent rallies) that remind us of the Old Guard PAP.

[pirate]

concern2:

So how now? :evil: Shall we have one from each educational background and training to make up GRC instead? :evil: And must include scholars and non-scholars? :evil:

If PAP team, must have some non-scholar, even non-graduate type in the GRC team. :evil:
But if WP team, must have some top of GEP cohort super elite type. :evil:
And if non WP opposition team, any type also no use.

[concern2]

pirate:

concern2:

So how now? :evil: Shall we have one from each educational background and training to make up GRC instead? :evil: And must include scholars and non-scholars? :evil:

If PAP team, must have some non-scholar, even non-graduate type in the GRC team. :evil:
But if WP team, must have some top of GEP cohort super elite type. :evil:

Ya, I think that is the winning formula now for these 2.

pirate:

And if non WP opposition team, any type also no use.

:faint: Can't be that bad! Let's hope they get their formulae right the next time!

[Way2GO]

concern2:

I would say he was intimidating - but he used it to his advantage. Yes, beyond language, there was race and religion. But 20 years later, the gap would narrow - suggested Jufrie then. And that was what GMS was trying to say - that MP being minority would still win, that minority or not, it doesn't matter any more - and MP did win! The gap had narrowed over the course of 20 years! However, in the course of 20 years, a different gap has emerged - elitism.

So how now? :evil: Shall we have one from each educational background and training to make up GRC instead? :evil: And must include scholars and non-scholars? :evil:

Accepted dat a common language has eased communication across cultures/races,
but d primeval urges to stick within one's own has not changed dat much.
MP was d first minority to stand in an SMC in wat 20 years or more?
Actually JBJ had debunked dat notion dat a minority cannot win on their own merit wa..ay back in 1981.
So it really boils down to MIWs' kaisuism?

[Way2GO]

pirate:

concern2:

So how now? :evil: Shall we have one from each educational background and training to make up GRC instead? :evil: And must include scholars and non-scholars? :evil:

If PAP team, must have some non-scholar, even non-graduate type in the GRC team. :evil:
But if WP team, must have some top of GEP cohort super elite type. :evil:
And if non WP opposition team, any type also no use.

tangugu..d oppo will hv to take 2nd pick or less for these.
if u observe carefully d high fliers such as CCS, KPK with 'less privileged' backgrounds, u will notice d MIWs track them fr young n win them over to their side.

[mummy so kiasu]

Way2GO:

pirate:

[quote=\"concern2\"]So how now? :evil: Shall we have one from each educational background and training to make up GRC instead? :evil: And must include scholars and non-scholars? :evil:

If PAP team, must have some non-scholar, even non-graduate type in the GRC team. :evil:
But if WP team, must have some top of GEP cohort super elite type. :evil:
And if non WP opposition team, any type also no use.

tangugu..d oppo will hv to take 2nd pick or less for these.
if u observe carefully d high fliers such as CCS, KPK with 'less privileged' backgrounds, u will notice d MIWs track them fr young n win them over to their side.[/quote]Are you sure CCS is less Privileged? Maybe can find out more from TR Emeritus website.

[Way2GO]

mummy so kiasu:

Are you sure CCS is less Privileged? Maybe can find out more from TR Emeritus website.

depends on whether u believe me or TRE lor?

[3Boys]

pirate:

MMM:

[quote=\"ngl2010\"] If transportation company de-privatized (anyway the govt is paying for new buses), which means that no need to earn profit, would the current profit earning be enough to cover the increase in the drivers' salary? Anybody can roughly calculate?

Another that LTK mentioned last night (which dh has always been saying to me) is also those gas company. With privatisation, the govt will no longer have control if the private sector wants to increase the charges, etc... maybe these are some of the critical areas that should not be privatise in the first place ?

It is not as straightforward as LTK say.

A part of the profits of these 'privatised' public transport/utitilities/landlord companies go to the Govt via Temasek etc if these remain GLCs. These dividends then become part of the Govt revenue, which is then spent on whatever govt needs to spend money on. It is not as though all these profits go into some black hole.

If there is no more profit, govt revenue will drop accordingly. Then govt will have to look for money somewhere else (like tax!) or have to cut down on govt spending.

Ultimately, yang mao chu zhai yang sheng shang. The real question is not whether 'privatisation' of these public services is good or not. The real question is how to balance the $$$ with the public service.

Of course, other parts of the profit that does not go to Temasek goes somewhere else, like local and foreign investors, and CEO and other executive pay...[/quote]You taking up the cudgels today pirate? Voices of reason don't resonate here.

[pirate]

3Boys:

You taking up the cudgels today pirate? Voices of reason don't resonate here.

I'm fickle.

[pirate]

Way2GO:

pirate:

[quote=\"concern2\"]So how now? :evil: Shall we have one from each educational background and training to make up GRC instead? :evil: And must include scholars and non-scholars? :evil:

If PAP team, must have some non-scholar, even non-graduate type in the GRC team. :evil:
But if WP team, must have some top of GEP cohort super elite type. :evil:
And if non WP opposition team, any type also no use.

tangugu..d oppo will hv to take 2nd pick or less for these.
if u observe carefully d high fliers such as CCS, KPK with 'less privileged' backgrounds, u will notice d MIWs track them fr young n win them over to their side.[/quote]Sometimes MIW miss some, especially if they are not in the SAF, civil service or government service type.

But I take that back about PAP team must have some non scholar even non graduate type. If they have a non scholar non graduate type people will say, \"Wah leow! This kind of thing also can be PAP candidate. They really run out of talent izzit?\" So, either way also :slapshead:

An elite on the PAP ticket is a selfish, elitist SOB out to oppress the hapless masses. On the other hand, an elite on a WP ticket is a compassionate person who his caring enough to leave the comfort of his/her GCB to listen to the piteous ( ) cries of the deprived masses. How the MIW PA... uhm I mean PR department allow this to happen I have no idea. :stupid: They should fire somebody.