Learning Hanyu Pinyin
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phtthp:
zakashi:
My DD in P1 was very upset as her teacher marked almost all wrong for her HYPY spelling just because she put the wrong tone on top of the H Y P Y. In fact all her spelling in Hypy are correct except the tone. My child is perfect in HYPY but really confused with using the right tone. Are they learning Chinese or English?
did your DD Chinese tr give them a list of Chinese words to prepare for tingxie ?
if Yes, ask yr girl to practise inside an exercise book first.
based on the list given :-
Left hand side - write out the Chinese character first,
next column - write out the corresponding hypy sound, with the respective tone 1 to 4. If she still don't get it, play that CD for that hypy book that sembgal recommend. Let her hear so that she get the tone correct.
then you mark her practice, before the actual tingxie day.
nowadays, the Chinese tr v strict. Not only ensure get the hypy spelling correct, the tone must also be correct. Otherwise, they say you're not pronounciating the Chinese word properly, so mark you wrong.
No Chinese character except hypy. I did not even know what word is that. All the pages are in hypy for tingxie (here we also did not put tone on top of the hypy when we quote). I need to search for the Chinese character to write beside the hypy. It is very frustrating. -
zakashi:
approach your child's Chinese tr for the tingxie list containing 2 column -
No Chinese character except hypy. I did not even know what word is that. All the pages are in hypy for tingxie (here we also did not put tone on top of the hypy when we quote). I need to search for the Chinese character to write beside the hypy. It is very frustrating.
both the Chinese word / character to be tested + corresponding hypy with the respective tone already indicated on it (beside the Chinese words).
if Chinese tr don't have, then approach the Chinese HOD.
say you need this list, to help your child prepare tingxie.
for Normal Chinese, this list is called :-
\" 小学 华 文 1A 汉 语 拼 音 认 读 表 \"
for Higher Chinese, this list is called :-
\" 小学 高 级 华 文 1A 汉 语 拼 音 认 读 表 \"
She'll distribute to the whole class, to prepare tingxie. -
Does anyone know where I can get software to include hypy to be included on top of each 字 in Microsoft word please? For eg, certain 字 is new and when learning spelling/默写, my daughter tends to forget or not familiar. So I type out the whole list in microsoft Word but it is painful to include hypy.
Any advice is appreciated. -
My son in P1 this year but I let him do P3/P4 Chinese asse book,when he is k2,he join P2 tuition class.may be I’m kiasu cause I start him early as 2 or 3years old.he is in HYPY class on k1.i found 字宝宝 is very good when teaching.he finish P1 and P2 字宝宝 around end k1.but only 认字no 写.so when he start HYPY it’s easy for him.hope this help!!
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Fat cello, wow, it is indeed a good headstart. Ur DS can take Higher Chinese easily in upper primary / sec. You are definitely not kiasu! If the child is ready and positive towards learning with all the conditions right, why not!
My DS is in sec1 now. He is good in chinese, esp HYPY. It is very important to be good in HYPY not just for P1, 1st half of the year, but it comes in very handy at the later studies stages too. My DS has to submit chinese assignments using word and powerpoint in his P5, P6 and now sec1. He types chinese using HYPY with ease. -
Fat cello:
My son in P1 this year but I let him do P3/P4 Chinese asse book,when he is k2,he join P2 tuition class.may be I'm kiasu cause I start him early as 2 or 3years old.he is in HYPY class on k1.i found 字宝宝 is very good when teaching.he finish P1 and P2 字宝宝 around end k1.but only 认字no 写.so when he start HYPY it's easy for him.hope this help!!
K2 do P3 / P4 is really very, very advanced. But if your son can handle, it's ok. Take it as exposure to higher level material. You'd given him a good strong foundation, right from the early beginning.
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zakashi:
hi zakashi,
No Chinese character except hypy. I did not even know what word is that. All the pages are in hypy for tingxie (here we also did not put tone on top of the hypy when we quote). I need to search for the Chinese character to write beside the hypy. It is very frustrating.
after you obtain the tingxie listing from your child's Chinese tr / HOD,
a)
1st: ask yr child to read aloud each word from listing (given).
test if child able to recognize the character first (without aid of any hypy)
example (tingxie test 1)
一\t\t\t五\t\t\t鱼\t\t\t雨
我
鸦\t\t\t蛙\t\t\t窝\t\t\t牙 \t
袜
b)
2nd: ask your child to fill in the hypy correct tone, beside each character.
一\t\tyi\t
五\t\twu
鱼\t\tyu
雨 \t\tyu
我\t\two
鸦\t\tya\t\t
蛙\t\twa
窝\t\two
牙 \t\tya
袜 \t\twa
c)
3rd: ask your child to write out both the Chinese word, + hypy tone beside it( side by side). -
When teaching the kids how to write the Chinese characters, do be sure to guide them the correct sequence of the strokes, bi hua. The school teachers are very sharp and picky on this. Is there any special way to tell if the strokes are correct? For me, I really can’t unless I observe when my DS is writing. Start the habit of good writing from young and once they are used to it, it comes very naturally. Think K2 is a good age to start learning HYPY. Now when I observed the 2-3 years old, most can’t even speak very clearly and it will do more harm than good to start HYPY. The 4 tones of HYPY may be too complex for too young kids. However for words recognition, we can start from young.
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Fat cello:
My son in P1 this year but I let him do P3/P4 Chinese asse book,when he is k2,he join P2 tuition class.may be I'm kiasu cause I start him early as 2 or 3years old.he is in HYPY class on k1.i found 字宝宝 is very good when teaching.he finish P1 and P2 字宝宝 around end k1.but only 认字no 写.so when he start HYPY it's easy for him.hope this help!!
Hi, can I ask you if your child is a local or comes from China?
I do know of a family who came from China. I learnt that at 2 years old in China, the kiasu mothers will start teaching child to recognize words. Currently that girl is in Pri school now and her Chinese standard is comparable to a secondary one. I asked her mother and she told me her child learnt the words meant for primary students when her child was in kindergarten. The Chinese top school exam papers are too easy for the child. However, the child's English standard is not very good. -
phtthp:
Thanks. That is what I am doing now. It is the 4 tones that my child is confused.
hi zakashi,zakashi:
No Chinese character except hypy. I did not even know what word is that. All the pages are in hypy for tingxie (here we also did not put tone on top of the hypy when we quote). I need to search for the Chinese character to write beside the hypy. It is very frustrating.
after you obtain the tingxie listing from your child's Chinese tr / HOD,
a)
1st: ask yr child to read aloud each word from listing (given).
test if child able to recognize the character first (without aid of any hypy)
example (tingxie test 1)
一\t\t\t五\t\t\t鱼\t\t\t雨
我
鸦\t\t\t蛙\t\t\t窝\t\t\t牙 \t
袜
b)
2nd: ask your child to fill in the hypy correct tone, beside each character.
一\t\tyi\t
五\t\twu
鱼\t\tyu
雨 \t\tyu
我\t\two
鸦\t\tya\t\t
蛙\t\twa
窝\t\two
牙 \t\tya
袜 \t\twa
c)
3rd: ask your child to write out both the Chinese word, + hypy tone beside it( side by side).
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