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    Are you ready for 7 million people on tiny Singapore?

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      WeiHan
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      3Boys:
      WeiHan:

      [quote=\"Irrelevant\"]

      Every time opposition open their mouths to government = please spend more.

      Every time government lose share of votes = spend more to buy back votes.

      See where the inevitable conclusion is? Exactly, a race to buy votes.

      Is quite interesting to see how you draw conclusion completely opposite from what what most people have been drawing.

      majority conclusion: every time PAP won an election, prices increase ( be it GST etc...)

      Your conclusion: Tax increased in future is due to opposition winning votes.

      I think: If not because of opposition gaining some votes, GST would have already increased to 10%.

      And pray tell, what is wrong with GST at 10%, if there is mitigation in increased social spending to compensate? Many countries with a socialist bent have higher GST than Singapore. One dimensional thinking again, WeiHan?[/quote]But the gov isn't saying that we are getting a fully subsidized healthcare system if GST is increased to 10%. There are simply better and fairer avenue for increased tax before increasing GST. Higher tax should be targetted at the higher income group first. Maybe 100k and above (anual) 2% more, 150K and above 3% more, 200K and above 4% more. With this tax structure, we are still way better than many world economies. Increase GST will surely add to further unhappiness.

      And why, I don't understand why we need to increase tax. Are we implementing any social program. Why is the government spending increasing? We are still enjoying economic growth ans so by default, government tax should increase too. Furthermore, income through COE, stamp duties from red hot property market should have increased gov income. Then , why is the government still talking about higher tax?

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        WeiHan
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        Harlequin:
        MR06:

        [quote=\"Harlequin\"]You can't stop people for being rich, but you should be able to contain your grudges!


        Since when did I had grudges with rich people, did I say I belong to the peasants? :?

        I may be blind but not deaf...,

        But, oh, that post was not for you, you don't have to rush to admit :rotflmao:[/quote]Then it is for who? You think people are complaining out of jealousy? I think you got it very wrong...alot of people are actually struggling to stay afloat.

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          pirate
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          WeiHan:
          Yes. someone already discussed the different alternatives which people should have a choice.


          Our productivity has not even reached the level of developed nation and there is still room for improvement. 5% GDP growth due to 5% population increase isn't going to give existing citizens a better quality of life. But a 1-2% GDP growth due to productivity increase will lead to better life even with 0% population growth.
          Solli hor. White paper already got caveat \"Up to 2020, if we can achieve 2% to 3% productivity growth per year (which is an ambitious stretch target)...\"

          If cannot, then... :faint:

          Beyond 2020, lagi more susa. Depends on all sorts of external environments like how the competition is doing compared to us. :nailbite:

          I suppose we can go back to being a laid back fishing port. But I'm told by those who actually go out to sea that the fish around here are mostly gone already.

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            Harlequin
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            MR06:
            MR06:

            [quote=\"MR06\"]

            Is it a promise the economy would be in the positive territory with more immigrants and you the peasant would benefit the most?

            On your last sentence, don't understand your logic.

            No, it is never a 100% promise, but at least we try, a good odds at 90%. Now that's a A*

            Don't try, ZERO!

            I didn't see the 90% in the White Paper. You are the Minister? You are now telling me that? :evil:[/quote]Kudos that you actually read the White Paper... These last 15 years, while you we're holding your breath from the stingy armpits, you were actually comfortably supplement by the economy growth lar.... only you failed to recognize it, nia nia.

            Or else what is those souls irking you like your earlier post?

            Is it enough said that it works?[/quote]

            Making more assumptions, aren't you? To the point I got comfy supplements from the economic growth! Don't think your future post warrant a reply from me.[/quote]





            Yap! It same like saying my tax is paying for this that this that thus I have a say.... 🤷 nobody actually knows what goes to what... Do you?!

            If you care to know, our taxes, duties, levies, etc; barely enough to pay xxx% of our yearly Budget, nia nia...

            By the very humble way, a lowly construction worker with stinky armpits are paying quite a lot of levy compares to big group of minimal-income-group aka, tax-exempted-group.

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              Harlequin
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              pirate:
              WeiHan:

              Yes. someone already discussed the different alternatives which people should have a choice.


              Our productivity has not even reached the level of developed nation and there is still room for improvement. 5% GDP growth due to 5% population increase isn't going to give existing citizens a better quality of life. But a 1-2% GDP growth due to productivity increase will lead to better life even with 0% population growth.

              Solli hor. White paper already got caveat \"Up to 2020, if we can achieve 2% to 3% productivity growth per year (which is an ambitious stretch target)...\"

              If cannot, then... :faint:

              Beyond 2020, lagi more susa. Depends on all sorts of external environments like how the competition is doing compared to us. :nailbite:

              I suppose we can go back to being a laid back fishing port. But I'm told by those who actually go out to sea that the fish around here are mostly gone already.

              Yap! You got it all right! We are not as smooth sailing as many here fear, that 7m thingy, relax folks, it takes a billion tons of efforts, while combating the home front....

              We may not be always that lucky, lucky till what fall on our plates also we still blur blur...

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                WeiHan
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                pirate:
                WeiHan:

                Yes. someone already discussed the different alternatives which people should have a choice.


                Our productivity has not even reached the level of developed nation and there is still room for improvement. 5% GDP growth due to 5% population increase isn't going to give existing citizens a better quality of life. But a 1-2% GDP growth due to productivity increase will lead to better life even with 0% population growth.

                Solli hor. White paper already got caveat \"Up to 2020, if we can achieve 2% to 3% productivity growth per year (which is an ambitious stretch target)...\"

                If cannot, then... :faint:

                Beyond 2020, lagi more susa. Depends on all sorts of external environments like how the competition is doing compared to us. :nailbite:

                I suppose we can go back to being a laid back fishing port. But I'm told by those who actually go out to sea that the fish around here are mostly gone already.

                I don't understand why \"laid back fishing port\" is always mentioned with a sarcastic bend. I think Singaporeans are quite a productive lot. For the past few decades, they have put up with the world only tripartite system. See how just a few PRCs drivers will have the gut attempt to challenge the system.

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                  Harlequin
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                  WeiHan:
                  Harlequin:

                  [quote=\"MR06\"]

                  Since when did I had grudges with rich people, did I say I belong to the peasants? :?

                  I may be blind but not deaf...,

                  But, oh, that post was not for you, you don't have to rush to admit :rotflmao:

                  Then it is for who? You think people are complaining out of jealousy? I think you got it very wrong...alot of people are actually struggling to stay afloat.[/quote]To the general.

                  Yap! A lot of people are struggling to stay afloat, so please don't kill the economic growth for your own comfort just because you can't take the smelly armpits, over crowded MRT etc... Please give them a chance!!

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                    WeiHan
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                    Harlequin:

                    To the general.

                    Yap! A lot of people are struggling to stay afloat, so please don't kill the economic growth for your own comfort just because you can't take the smelly armpits, over crowded MRT etc... Please give them a chance!!
                    You are really clueless what is happening. You don't deserve a reply from here on.

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                      Harlequin
                      last edited by

                      WeiHan:
                      Harlequin:


                      To the general.

                      Yap! A lot of people are struggling to stay afloat, so please don't kill the economic growth for your own comfort just because you can't take the smelly armpits, over crowded MRT etc... Please give them a chance!!

                      You are really clueless what is happening. You don't deserve a reply from here on.

                      :rotflmao:

                      Have I solicited your reply? :evil:

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                        Harlequin
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                        It’s very common to use others as excuses for campaigning their course, ie. those underprivileged, the less fortunate ones…


                        If you hear their arguments long enough you can sniff something.

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