All About Autism
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Summer tan,
please do not send your son to PCF, because the class is too big, > 20 kids. It won’t help him. Mashy is right - PCF is ok for normal developing children, with above average IQ. Those with special need, it is advisable to go elsewhere.
Your son need lots of attention, preferably in a small kindergarten group setting. The smaller it is, the better! See whether is there any good, reliable Montessori kindergarten around your area, where school fees within your budget. Check out all the Montessori pre-school(s), in your vicinity in the north. -
Summer tan:
Thank you mashy. I agree with you too that a class of 20 is also tough for a special needs trained teacher. Actually I'm at my wits end. I wanted my son to go to a mainstream kindergarten but other than this ICCP child care centre, I have no idea which other schools will accept him. I'm staying in the north and a sahm. Hence my finance is very tight too.
summer tan, ICCP sounds like quite a good common ground approach for you in this case based on your situation. There are teachers at ICCP who are trained in special needs that could help to watch out for your child's issues, and at the same time there is exposure to NT kids in this environment. Stay positive, as your child is HF, it would be easier for him to blend into a mainstream environment as compared to an ASD child with more severe issues.
You are also quite lucky to be able to get into ICCP. There are MCYS (sorry dont know the new name yet) stipulated guidelines on NT: special needs ratios for each ICCP center, and usually there is a long wait list.
I am based north too, and I have gone around some time ago to look for a mainstream cc for my child. Some of them are quite kind though I was not able to enrol my doter for one reason or another. Will pm you some contacts later when I pull them out. -
Double E:
Double E, its a more difficult decision in this case cos your child is well settled in his current CC.Mummies
I am contemplating to pull my boy out of his current CC and transfer him to a church kindy. We thought a kindy is closer to a mainstream primary setting and by sending him there, we can prepare him for P1. Another reason is that with the savings, we can send him to more activities like swimming and arts lesson.
What do you all think? But I worry if he can cope well in kindy as they have a larger teacher children ratio, usually 1 teacher to about 20 kids for K1 and K2. Also, he is currently doing fine in his CC, so far no unpleasant feedback on him from the teachers.
Will you make the move if you are in my shoe? the savings can be of $800 a mth which I can use to pay for extra lessons on swimming, social behavior classes.
These are the things that I would consider:
1. Whether the kindy is willing to accept him. I belong to the school of thought to be upfront to the school about my doter's condition before enrolment, cos I think both ends should not be blindsighted.
2. Whether there are new things happening to the family, eg. siblings starting new school, spouse changing job etc. As there would be some adapting to do with a new environment if you were to change, sometimes the other dynamics at home may cause an effect. I started this year with new swimming classes for my two elder gals, new school year with lots more homework, new mainstream cc for my asd doter etc. It was very tiring having to deal with too many things all at once.
3. Know what you mean on the savings. I am also being sucked dry with all these support programs. Maybe the question could then be whether swimming lessons etc are important priorities at this juncture and whether they are worth the change, or maybe they can wait?
My two cents worth and hope it helps. -
helplessmum3:
Rainbow has swimming once a week for my son
Rainbow has this very big swimming pool in their premises. I think they conduct hydrotherapy that is proven to address some of the ASD issues. I know of one other SPED school that conducts swimming lessons, but most do not.
Good for you, helplessmum. we have to find our own lessons if we want to get our children to go for swimming. -
phtthp:
Thank you, phtthp. So i guess our decision to pull him out from pcf is right after all. I briefly told him last night and he was very sad and crying.. so sad for me. :~~(Summer tan,
please do not send your son to PCF, because the class is too big, > 20 kids. It won't help him. Mashy is right - PCF is ok for normal developing children, with above average IQ. Those with special need, it is advisable to go elsewhere.
Your son need lots of attention, preferably in a small kindergarten group setting. The smaller it is, the better! See whether is there any good, reliable Montessori kindergarten around your area, where school fees within your budget. Check out all the Montessori pre-school(s), in your vicinity in the north.
The ICCP kindergarten is actually a full class size of 20 too so i am also worried for my son. The only thing i can do now is to keep a positive mind that everything will be better. Actually just now on the bus i saw a Montessori at Canberra which is quite near to my place. But my husband is worried that my son is already so active and difficult to take instructions. If he's in Montessori, would it make it worse? But I am also thinking would Montessori build up his confident.. Mummies, do you know if they do accept special needs kid? -
Summer tan:
The real Montessori classes are meant to benefit special needs kids. However, in Singapore, many are semi Montessori. So u need to check if they are truly Montessori.
Thank you, phtthp. So i guess our decision to pull him out from pcf is right after all. I briefly told him last night and he was very sad and crying.. so sad for me. :~~(phtthp:
Summer tan,
please do not send your son to PCF, because the class is too big, > 20 kids. It won't help him. Mashy is right - PCF is ok for normal developing children, with above average IQ. Those with special need, it is advisable to go elsewhere.
Your son need lots of attention, preferably in a small kindergarten group setting. The smaller it is, the better! See whether is there any good, reliable Montessori kindergarten around your area, where school fees within your budget. Check out all the Montessori pre-school(s), in your vicinity in the north.
The ICCP kindergarten is actually a full class size of 20 too so i am also worried for my son. The only thing i can do now is to keep a positive mind that everything will be better. Actually just now on the bus i saw a Montessori at Canberra which is quite near to my place. But my husband is worried that my son is already so active and difficult to take instructions. If he's in Montessori, would it make it worse? But I am also thinking would Montessori build up his confident.. Mummies, do you know if they do accept special needs kid? -
ImMeeMee:
Thanks ImMeeMee. May I know what is NT?Summer tan:
Thank you mashy. I agree with you too that a class of 20 is also tough for a special needs trained teacher. Actually I'm at my wits end. I wanted my son to go to a mainstream kindergarten but other than this ICCP child care centre, I have no idea which other schools will accept him. I'm staying in the north and a sahm. Hence my finance is very tight too.
summer tan, ICCP sounds like quite a good common ground approach for you in this case based on your situation. There are teachers at ICCP who are trained in special needs that could help to watch out for your child's issues, and at the same time there is exposure to NT kids in this environment. Stay positive, as your child is HF, it would be easier for him to blend into a mainstream environment as compared to an ASD child with more severe issues.
You are also quite lucky to be able to get into ICCP. There are MCYS (sorry dont know the new name yet) stipulated guidelines on NT: special needs ratios for each ICCP center, and usually there is a long wait list.
I am based north too, and I have gone around some time ago to look for a mainstream cc for my child. Some of them are quite kind though I was not able to enrol my doter for one reason or another. Will pm you some contacts later when I pull them out.
Actually I just decided to call up the ICCP child care 2 weeks ago and the principal said since one student is leaving they can take in my son. I didnt know that there is a long wait list for other ICCP centres. Btw, the principal did not do any assessment for my son. We just went there and she talked to me about the centre's programme. Then i gave her the psychological report and that's all.
Yes, though my son can blend in to mainstream, he has difficulty socialising. The current PCF teacher feedback that he would sometimes scream or spit saliva, use f word (his father accidentally said it beginning of last year, he used it at K4K then after that didnt for more than half a year and recently started to use it but only in school not at home), hit his friends, purposely gave wrong answers during teaching which teacher said confused the rest of the students, cannot sit through during teaching time too. So i think he is much more difficult to handle than a severe ASD kid.
Oh you are staying in the north too? Is your child in preschool or primary school already? Thanks ya for sharing the info.
Ladies, thanks for all your advice and kind words. I feel so good that finally, yes finally, I have an avenue to turn to. Thank you. .. -
ImMeeMee:
Double E, its a more difficult decision in this case cos your child is well settled in his current CC.Double E:
Mummies
I am contemplating to pull my boy out of his current CC and transfer him to a church kindy. We thought a kindy is closer to a mainstream primary setting and by sending him there, we can prepare him for P1. Another reason is that with the savings, we can send him to more activities like swimming and arts lesson.
What do you all think? But I worry if he can cope well in kindy as they have a larger teacher children ratio, usually 1 teacher to about 20 kids for K1 and K2. Also, he is currently doing fine in his CC, so far no unpleasant feedback on him from the teachers.
Will you make the move if you are in my shoe? the savings can be of $800 a mth which I can use to pay for extra lessons on swimming, social behavior classes.
These are the things that I would consider:
1. Whether the kindy is willing to accept him. I belong to the school of thought to be upfront to the school about my doter's condition before enrolment, cos I think both ends should not be blindsighted.
2. Whether there are new things happening to the family, eg. siblings starting new school, spouse changing job etc. As there would be some adapting to do with a new environment if you were to change, sometimes the other dynamics at home may cause an effect. I started this year with new swimming classes for my two elder gals, new school year with lots more homework, new mainstream cc for my asd doter etc. It was very tiring having to deal with too many things all at once.
3. Know what you mean on the savings. I am also being sucked dry with all these support programs. Maybe the question could then be whether swimming lessons etc are important priorities at this juncture and whether they are worth the change, or maybe they can wait?
My two cents worth and hope it helps.
ImMeeMee
Yes, I will inform the kindy in advance about his condition and see if they are receptive to special needs kids. I am visiting the two kindy at the end of this mth.
No changes to family environment. If I send my son to kindy, my younger gal will go together with him but different class of course. My husband is confident that he can adapt but I can't help but worry. Apart from CC, he is also in a mainstream environment in Berries and Church Sunday class. In his Berries class, there are about 12 kids with 2 teachers. His main issue in this Berries class is that halfway through the lesson, he will want to stand up and go to the board to read the words himself and the teacher has to pull him back a few times. Apart from this nothing major, as he will pay attention and listen during the first half of the lesson. He can also follow instruction. I realise that he starts to fidget when the teachers revise the words in the second half of the lesson, its like he is bored since he already know the words so want to get up and do his own things.
As for Sunday class, we initially thought of putting him in a ASD class but the teachers are willing to let him try the mainstream class and see how he behaves. And surprisingly, he can adapt well. Teachers said they have no problem with him. But a kindy and Sunday class is different, so I am not sure if that is a good comparison.
For swimming and art lessons, his OT suggested it as it helps to keep him stimulated. -
mashy:
The real Montessori classes are meant to benefit special needs kids. However, in Singapore, many are semi Montessori. So u need to check if they are truly Montessori.[/quote]Oh really? Wow i really didnt know.. ok will call and check though i doubt we can afford.. Hmm any mummies here send their kids to a Montessori?
Thank you, phtthp. So i guess our decision to pull him out from pcf is right after all. I briefly told him last night and he was very sad and crying.. so sad for me. :~~(Summer tan:
[quote=\"phtthp\"]Summer tan,
please do not send your son to PCF, because the class is too big, > 20 kids. It won't help him. Mashy is right - PCF is ok for normal developing children, with above average IQ. Those with special need, it is advisable to go elsewhere.
Your son need lots of attention, preferably in a small kindergarten group setting. The smaller it is, the better! See whether is there any good, reliable Montessori kindergarten around your area, where school fees within your budget. Check out all the Montessori pre-school(s), in your vicinity in the north.
The ICCP kindergarten is actually a full class size of 20 too so i am also worried for my son. The only thing i can do now is to keep a positive mind that everything will be better. Actually just now on the bus i saw a Montessori at Canberra which is quite near to my place. But my husband is worried that my son is already so active and difficult to take instructions. If he's in Montessori, would it make it worse? But I am also thinking would Montessori build up his confident.. Mummies, do you know if they do accept special needs kid? -
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