Ergonomic Furniture
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junemum72:
Seriously do we really need to use these so called ergo tables? Was at wheelock the other day and the salesperson said kids will not develop spinal problems if they use these magic tables or otherwise has high chances of neck problem, growth problem, etc! No ergo tables in primary, secondary, jc, poly, uni, and kids turn out fine, so what's the issue?I went City Square over the weekend to see the ergo tables Jarron is having on sales.
Putting aside the sales service, durability and the country of origin, frankly as a genuine consumer giving feedback, (i have been to 3 different shops excluding this), I would say they work the same one after another. Some brands may allow the tilting position to be higher, some lower. Other than that, I really cannot see any difference except the prices or the sizes unless someone can enlighten what else these ergo table can help which normal table can't.
Some told me products are from xxx but assembly in another country, so to me they are all the same, not 100% made in xxx but prices differ alot.
We were tempted to get the $399 table which we feel it will work as well compare to the expensive ones. But after analysing, we realise our current computer table still works the best, the tilting table does not serve us any good purpose (mayb as of now) as my DS likes to read on his sofa..So we shelf the idea of getting one again for the time being.. -
peterlee:
Seriously do we really need to use these so called ergo tables? Was at wheelock the other day and the salesperson said kids will not develop spinal problems if they use these magic tables or otherwise has high chances of neck problem, growth problem, etc! No ergo tables in primary, secondary, jc, poly, uni, and kids turn out fine, so what's the issue?junemum72:
I went City Square over the weekend to see the ergo tables Jarron is having on sales.
Putting aside the sales service, durability and the country of origin, frankly as a genuine consumer giving feedback, (i have been to 3 different shops excluding this), I would say they work the same one after another. Some brands may allow the tilting position to be higher, some lower. Other than that, I really cannot see any difference except the prices or the sizes unless someone can enlighten what else these ergo table can help which normal table can't.
Some told me products are from xxx but assembly in another country, so to me they are all the same, not 100% made in xxx but prices differ alot.
We were tempted to get the $399 table which we feel it will work as well compare to the expensive ones. But after analysing, we realise our current computer table still works the best, the tilting table does not serve us any good purpose (mayb as of now) as my DS likes to read on his sofa..So we shelf the idea of getting one again for the time being..
I agree, what is the issue with the ergo stuff. :? The kids spend 6-7 hours in school sitting on normal chairs and about 2-3 hours at tuition sitting on normal chairs. When at home the kids may sit on the super duper ergo chair for 1-2hours on the weekdays. So DC spends 6-9 hours on a normal chair and that is remedied by sitting on the super duper ergo chair for 2 hours or more. Wow!!! We have a medical and scientific breakthrough that nobody is aware of!! :slapshead:
I now :udawoman: :udaman: to the ergo companies. -
Just relax:
Seriously do we really need to use these so called ergo tables? Was at wheelock the other day and the salesperson said kids will not develop spinal problems if they use these magic tables or otherwise has high chances of neck problem, growth problem, etc! No ergo tables in primary, secondary, jc, poly, uni, and kids turn out fine, so what's the issue?peterlee:
[quote=\"junemum72\"]I went City Square over the weekend to see the ergo tables Jarron is having on sales.
Putting aside the sales service, durability and the country of origin, frankly as a genuine consumer giving feedback, (i have been to 3 different shops excluding this), I would say they work the same one after another. Some brands may allow the tilting position to be higher, some lower. Other than that, I really cannot see any difference except the prices or the sizes unless someone can enlighten what else these ergo table can help which normal table can't.
Some told me products are from xxx but assembly in another country, so to me they are all the same, not 100% made in xxx but prices differ alot.
We were tempted to get the $399 table which we feel it will work as well compare to the expensive ones. But after analysing, we realise our current computer table still works the best, the tilting table does not serve us any good purpose (mayb as of now) as my DS likes to read on his sofa..So we shelf the idea of getting one again for the time being..
I agree, what is the issue with the ergo stuff. :? The kids spend 6-7 hours in school sitting on normal chairs and about 2-3 hours at tuition sitting on normal chairs. When at home the kids may sit on the super duper ergo chair for 1-2hours on the weekdays. So DC spends 6-9 hours on a normal chair and that is remedied by sitting on the super duper ergo chair for 2 hours or more. Wow!!! We have a medical and scientific breakthrough that nobody is aware of!! :slapshead:
I now :udawoman: :udaman: to the ergo companies.[/quote]Well I have a different take on this. In my office, we had some really lousy chairs. It was horrible but no one dared ask the boss to upgrade the chairs as he was known to be stingy. Then one day the big boss from overseas came and he was appalled at the office furniture we were using. He gave strict instructions to have the entire department furniture replaced. And we got Herman Miller chairs. It was so much more comfortable.
The truth is we're spending longer hours sitting at our desks in front of a PC, whether at home or in the office. The same is for the kids. They spend longer hours in school, tuition and at home doing homework. I think it is important to make sure the kids get to develop good desk habits. I remember growing up and spending lots of time readinhg or doing my homework lying horizontally on the floor or in bed and it was a habit that I carried on in university. And the long hours spent hunched over long essays, maths problem sets etc... really gave me lots of neck injuries... muscular injuries... thankfully nothing related to spine etc.
I think good desk habits aside, if I can afford my child a good desk that he can enjoy and grow up with... why not? These days nothing is cheap... you buy a condo in Sengkang it's already $900psf... you buy in Bishan it's $1500psf.
Also, if we look around us, there are increasingly more chiropractors setting up practice in malls and you see so many of them at EXPO fairs. I think they are here because there is a demand and the demand is there because Singaporeans have health issues there.
Of course, most of our kids will do fine with a normal, simple and cheap desk.
Oh, I'm sold on it. I'm shopping around for a good one. Thanks everyone for sharing information and most importantly your personal experience. -
mommy bee is Joshua Tan from Jarrons. He types exactly as he talk. Shame on him!
mommy bee:
:rahrah: Applauds to the Moderator to send out the gentle reminder to these providers and hope it can spare us from these biased and unethical trying to promote their brands in the forum thread.
Sorry but I have to single out one of the companies here, they are from the same company and impersonate into multiple identities and promoting here. Please stop doing this. What we wish to see is customers who had bought the products and give a personal and fair review of the products.
There are total six companies in Singapore carrying different brands(oldest to newest):
1. Crosscom(Forum Galleria) - Moll System(Made in Germany)
2. Kinderfun(Centrepoint &United Square) - Comf-pro((Made in Taiwan)
3. Ergoworks(Centerpoint, Marina Square & Causeway Point) - Kuangshin(Taiwan)
4. Jarrons & Co(City Square Mall)-Kettler(Made in Germany), ROVO chair(Germany), ErgoSmart(Taiwan)
5. Kid2Youth aka ErgoKid(Suntec City and Wheelock)-Kids2Youth(Taiwan) & Moll(Germany)
6. Atwood(Ang Mo Kio Industrial Park)-Kuangshin(Taiwan)
Hope this info is useful to all parents. -
Jarrons ah? Their product not so cheap as they advertise. Lots of extra charges… like delivery and installation need to pay for both desk and chair… in the end all adds up. Desk alone they say they charge $50.
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ChiefKiasu:
Thanks for the info, i am also looking for ergonomic tables for my kids .Fettuccine:
I'm looking for a good ergonomic study table and chair for my son. Anybody has any recommendations?
Fettucine, sorry, a bit late, but u might want to look at Kinder Fun. They have a showroom at Centrepoint:
176 Orchard Road #05-15 Centrepoint Shopping Centre
Singapore 238843
Tel: (65) 6733 6988
Their tables are cheap relative to the incredibly high pricing that the term \"ergonomic\" seem to associate itself with products. -
Kinderfun cheap!!!??? I would say their desks/chairs are actually overpriced among all the Taiwanese brands out there. And yes, Kinderfun’s Comf-pro is Taiwanese despite what they will tell you. Their desks alone starts at $1200, so their chairs $650, so by the time you add delivery, it’s almost $2000. For this price, I’d rather go for the original German moll.
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tanjack77:
Kinderfun cheap!!!??? I would say their desks/chairs are actually overpriced among all the Taiwanese brands out there. And yes, Kinderfun's Comf-pro is Taiwanese despite what they will tell you. Their desks alone starts at $1200, so their chairs $650, so by the time you add delivery, it's almost $2000. For this price, I'd rather go for the original German moll.
Hi Tanjack77,
Can share where do you get it instead then ? -
Hey sundaymorning, you can check the previous postings in this thread. If you have the budget for premium study desk/chair, then get a Moll desk at Ergokid in Wheelock Place. If you’re looking for the cheaper Taiwanese, I suggest Kid2Youth/Scool, Ergoworks, Jarrons and Atwood. I will refrain for commenting on each of them and to be fair, they each have their plus/minus. It’s better to check them yourself because some of the posting in this thread can be extremely biased and may not be bona fide. The Taiwanese desks are cheaper than a Moll but you can’t compare on price alone as quality, features and design are different. Some of them look rather tacky, the kind of desk a teenager or grown-up may not like. And don’t be fool by some of the low prices, some charge delivery/installation costs, others give you a cheapo chair in the bundle and require you to top up a lot to get a decent chair. Pure marketing gimmicks which makes things less transparent.
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Jarrons from city square is really bad. I am considering to file a complaint against them in CASE with the invoices. Salesman is called Joshua.
They failed to deliver the promised items for months(4 months). When we call, the girl in the phone always said get back to us later! but never call back.
Also the chair quality really bad too!
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