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[sunflower]

sinoboy:

Except for one year in a quasi stat board, and 2 1/2 years NS (completed my full 13 years cycle btw), all my life I've been in the private sector. My desire for an overseas education is real albeit not fulfilled. I wasn't joking with the ranking and pecking order as I now see it as a new norm to evaluating staff potential (especially before they implemented the sg/pr vs ft quota). I'm like other KSP emulating our ex PMs, MM, current PM & ministers all sending their DC overseas to study, so don't see anything wrong unless you are saying our ministers are also from another world. And yes I'm an earthling with limited 慧根 that's why I love 桃花and prefer to :grphug: mei mei. :celebrate:

My guess is that you are in a line of work that having connections and a better understanding of the cultures and inner workings of other countries would be advantageous to bring in money and new clients for the company.

I’ve always assumed you are working in the private sector. Just wondering, are your bosses and bosses above majority PRs and FTs?

Money and status are not everything in life. If you can remove the big 无明, you’ll be much happier. Wish you peace and happiness.

[janet88]

Imami:

Harlequin:

yearning for a Lexus

:slapshead: :slapshead: addiooo..... lexus nia.

Off topic...I also yearn for Lexus...but cannot afford the petrol and maintenance.

[sinoboy]

sunflower:

I’ve always assumed you are working in the private sector. Just wondering, are your bosses and bosses above majority PRs and FTs?

Money and status are not everything in life. If you can remove the big 无明, you’ll be much happier. Wish you peace and happiness.

My previous bosses were a mixture of locals and FTs. I'm only saying one of my regret is life is not having an overseas education. It is my personal opinion that an overseas education may not be necessary in the past, but times have changed. With influx of people here from everything, we better arm ours kids with an overseas education to ensure they do not get marginalized. Isn't that what KSPs is about? :xedfingers:

[ngl2010]

sinoboy:

sunflower:

I’ve always assumed you are working in the private sector. Just wondering, are your bosses and bosses above majority PRs and FTs?

Money and status are not everything in life. If you can remove the big 无明, you’ll be much happier. Wish you peace and happiness.

My previous bosses were a mixture of locals and FTs. I'm only saying one of my regret is life is not having an overseas education. It is my personal opinion that an overseas education may not be necessary in the past, but times have changed. With influx of people here from everything, we better arm ours kids with an overseas education to ensure they do not get marginalized. Isn't that what KSPs is about? :xedfingers:

Only when they are scholars or graduated from Harvard and the other top overseas universities then I have respect for their education smartness. Otherwise, local universities are still better.

[sharonkhoo]

sinoboy:

It is my personal opinion that an overseas education may not be necessary in the past, but times have changed. With influx of people here from everything, we better arm ours kids with an overseas education to ensure they do not get marginalized. Isn't that what KSPs is about? :xedfingers:

I guess it depends on which percentile of the population you are aiming for? Surely only a minority of graduates in Singapore are educated overseas? How can the majority then be the 'margin'? And I feel that employers and bosses can surely tell the smart/able from the less smart/able, irrespective of where they got their degree. I think the degree from a good (not every or any) overseas university may help in landing the first job, but performance counts for more after that.

[ammonite]

One of my relatives was a poly grad. She graduated during the Asian financial crises and had to work in McDonald’s for two years. When I returned from overseas, we met up and I rewrote her CV for her and a cover letter and we sent it off. That was my little contribution. She was invited for an interview where her drive and determination shone through. She was hired by an international petrochemicals company. Fast forward 10 years, she is now based in Hong Kong and travels frequently for meetings and to meet clients.

[Imami]

janet_lee88:

Imami:

[quote=\"Harlequin\"]yearning for a Lexus

:slapshead: :slapshead: addiooo..... lexus nia.

Off topic...I also yearn for Lexus...but cannot afford the petrol and maintenance.[/quote]Janet, u don't drive (often) so maybe u don't get my point. But really, to me Lexus is just toyota with a different logo and higher price tag. No big deal. For someone who claim he is driving a merc, I expect him to have better taste/judgement/broader and wiser opinion when it comes to car. And telling me so and so also bought the same car is not helping.

I am not saying Lexus is not a good make. I just feel that it's no big deal.

[Imami]

ngl2010:

the other top overseas universities then I have respect for their education smartness. Otherwise, local universities are still better.

yes, definitely agree. In my ex-company, local grads command a higher starting salary compared to those from overseas (non ivy league uni).

[Imami]

For the time being, The only reason why I am sending my son overseas for his uni study is becos

1. He has won a scholarship to study in uni like Harvard or similar Or
2. His grades do not make it into a local uni and I can afford To send him overseas.

I fail to see why an overseas education will definitely provide my son a competitive edge, especially if
-his attitude is bad
- his social/emotional quotient is low
- he thinks his degree is so important that it is a key factor of how successful he will be and that nothing else come close.

I have never been to overseas for study. But I don’t think I am ever penalize/ short changed becos of this. In fact, I don’t see how those colleagues who graduated from overseas have an advantage in terms of promotion.

When I am promoted, it was because I was truly deserving, or so I was told by bosses, peer and subordinates. When I was bypassed for promotion, I could see how/why another colleague was more deserving (and no, never was it becos he/she was an overseas grad).

[sharonkhoo]

Imami:

I have never been to overseas for study. But I don't think I am ever penalize/ short changed becos of this. In fact, I don't see how those colleagues who graduated from overseas have an advantage in terms of promotion.


When I am promoted, it was because I was truly deserving, or so I was told by bosses, peer and subordinates. When I was bypassed for promotion, I could see how/why another colleague was more deserving (and no, never was it becos he/she was an overseas grad).

I can report from the other side - I did go to a prestigious overseas university and got a good degree. But I didn't have the competitiveness or ability to really succeed and my HR dept in fact told me to my face that that was the feedback they got from various supervisors. I opted for a lower-paying, less 'desirable' job (which I enjoyed, actually) in that stat board and eventually quit to become a SAHM. During my 9 yrs of working life, many who joined at the same time were promoted ahead of me, including many local grads, some of whom are now in extremely senior positions. And yes, they certainly do those jobs much better than I ever could have.