All About Preparing For PSLE
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TheAnswer:
My cousin dropped out of RVHS. She went in with a score of 262. She started having academic problems in sec 3. I offered to tutor her for free but she declined. Anyway she is the youngest among all my cousins and she used to look down on us. Too much pride gets you nowhere.[/quote]I would think that 262 in RVHS is comfortable enough for her to cope with the study. What had gone wrong? BGR? Complacency?
Using DSA is not easy to get into one of those top schools...students' academic results should be above average too. Or else it is not easy to stay in the school. A teacher friend told me her student from neighbourhood primary school got into RV using sports but academically, the student is weak.janet_lee88:
[quote=\"MMM\"]
[Personally, if the child does not meet the mark academically, I wouldn't encourage DSA especially for a top school as well. Getting in is one thing, sustaining is is the next major hurdle. So need to set realistic target. I heard about wushu kids getting in through DSA to a sec school in east but they struggled academically after that. So this is not the desirable thing to do. -
ngl2010:
Many things could have happened during their teenage years...it is a stage where the teenagers go through a stage of searching for their identity...unlike the times when they are in P6, friends become more important than parents, friends' words weigh more than that of caring adults (including parents) ...and school subjects also change amd quantity of subjects and hours spent in CCAs, other forms of enrichments and with friends also increase by a few folds.......
I would think that 262 in RVHS is comfortable enough for her to cope with the study. What had gone wrong? BGR? Complacency?
while we have teenagers who didnt perform well in P6 but excel when they are in secondary schools, we will also have P6's who used to do well, declined when they are in sec school. -
TheAnswer:
I won't allow my son to DSA to any school. He has to go in because he is qualified. Not by any backdoors. Currently, I am teaching a few IP students who got in through DSA. Mad struggle for them now.VALyap:
many parents think that DSA is a good option to IP schs...It may not be a good idea. To be able to handle the academic pressure from IP schs, the child needs to have at least T-score in top 10% range... or rather P4 to P5, consistently abv 85%. :rahrah:
Like some here had shared, there are kids (below 85% overall ) that got into IP in East or Bkt Timah or ACSI thru DSA, they are really facing the pressure. In the end, instead of helping them, they are struggling to catch up and ultimately their self-esteem lowered! Hence, it's a dis-service to the kids and some poor kids really demoralised. :imdrowning:
Many had pointed out IP is not for everyone and definitely the sch work load is not a walk-in-the park! :?: The teacher really teach less and expecting kids to learn more! The subject can be ahead of the curve sec 3/4 topics taught in sec 1/2. It is more of self-learning and reading ahead............. :imcool:
Well said \" The Answer\" :goodpost: Share the same view as you...getting into any IP school by merits and not backdoors...else the poor kids will struggle to stay afloat! :imdrowning: some kids got thru DSA into DHS table tennis or badminton in R...they are really .....
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I dont think that DSA by itself is a backdoor process. Getting into a school by psle doesnt mean the kid can handle the school expectations or ip base requirements, after all psle is hardly the platform to demostrade independence learning or time management skillset.
The fundemental remains that the parent should understand the child character and ability and match them to a school that best suits them, be it ip or non-ip. -
TheAnswer:
Your stance and your cousin's experience are not in sync, what would you make of that?
I won't allow my son to DSA to any school. He has to go in because he is qualified. Not by any backdoors. Currently, I am teaching a few IP students who got in through DSA. Mad struggle for them now.VALyap:
many parents think that DSA is a good option to IP schs...It may not be a good idea. To be able to handle the academic pressure from IP schs, the child needs to have at least T-score in top 10% range... or rather P4 to P5, consistently abv 85%. :rahrah:
Like some here had shared, there are kids (below 85% overall ) that got into IP in East or Bkt Timah or ACSI thru DSA, they are really facing the pressure. In the end, instead of helping them, they are struggling to catch up and ultimately their self-esteem lowered! Hence, it's a dis-service to the kids and some poor kids really demoralised. :imdrowning:
Many had pointed out IP is not for everyone and definitely the sch work load is not a walk-in-the park! :?: The teacher really teach less and expecting kids to learn more! The subject can be ahead of the curve sec 3/4 topics taught in sec 1/2. It is more of self-learning and reading ahead............. :imcool: -
VALyap:
Many had pointed out IP is not for everyone and definitely the sch work load is not a walk-in-the park! :?: The teacher really teach less and expecting kids to learn more! The subject can be ahead of the curve sec 3/4 topics taught in sec 1/2. It is more of self-learning and reading ahead............. :imcool:
IP schools are not for everyone...the teaching is not pitched at preparing kids for O levels but A levels...as it is, primary and secondary level is different. Learning curve is very much steeper.
I am not for DSA either...esp if it is for sports or choir...son is in infocomm CCA and that once a week is not easy. On top of that, he has to stay back for supplementary lessons 2x a week or more sometimes. If he enters sec school via DSA, he would have to practise at least 3x a week and still get homework/revision done after school. -
Dreamgear:
:goodpost: Agree!I dont think that DSA by itself is a backdoor process. Getting into a school by psle doesnt mean the kid can handle the school expectations or ip base requirements, after all psle is hardly the platform to demostrade independence learning or time management skillset.
The fundemental remains that the parent should understand the child character and ability and match them to a school that best suits them, be it ip or non-ip.
Most schools do not anyhow award DSA to undeserving students, so I don't think DSA is a backdoor or DSA students are any less deserving than those entered with PSLE results. Even for students who DSA with sports, the schools do take into account their academic standards. My children are not into sports but I notice some of their friends who excel in sports do equally well academically. I believe they are often very disciplined and determined students with equally strong academic abilities as other students. -
wonderm:
:goodpost: :goodpost:
:goodpost: Agree!Dreamgear:
I dont think that DSA by itself is a backdoor process. Getting into a school by psle doesnt mean the kid can handle the school expectations or ip base requirements, after all psle is hardly the platform to demostrade independence learning or time management skillset.
The fundemental remains that the parent should understand the child character and ability and match them to a school that best suits them, be it ip or non-ip.
Most schools do not anyhow award DSA to undeserving students, so I don't think DSA is a backdoor or DSA students are any less deserving than those entered with PSLE results. Even for students who DSA with sports, the schools do take into account their academic standards. My children are not into sports but I notice some of their friends who excel in sports do equally well academically. I believe they are often very disciplined and determined students with equally strong academic abilities as other students.
Perhaps, they should explain what they meant by DSA = Backdoor ? -
firefly38:
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:goodpost: Agree!wonderm:
[quote=\"Dreamgear\"]I dont think that DSA by itself is a backdoor process. Getting into a school by psle doesnt mean the kid can handle the school expectations or ip base requirements, after all psle is hardly the platform to demostrade independence learning or time management skillset.
The fundemental remains that the parent should understand the child character and ability and match them to a school that best suits them, be it ip or non-ip.
Most schools do not anyhow award DSA to undeserving students, so I don't think DSA is a backdoor or DSA students are any less deserving than those entered with PSLE results. Even for students who DSA with sports, the schools do take into account their academic standards. My children are not into sports but I notice some of their friends who excel in sports do equally well academically. I believe they are often very disciplined and determined students with equally strong academic abilities as other students.
Perhaps, they should explain what they meant by DSA = Backdoor ?[/quote]Agree to wonderm & dreamgear.
All of us have the same number of hours everyday. Comparatively, DSA kids have to face demanding commitments of their time to their CCAs leaving them a lot less energy & time on their academics.
Perhaps some kids are indeed weaker but eventually the parents should understand their child & decide if top schools are really suitable. And for those of us who have kids who are more academically inclined, we still need to be aware. Some sec schools has more CCAs requirements, when we start loading these PSLE kids with extra CCAs, outcome might also be weaker academics too.....unlike those DSA kids who are used to having tight schedules & good time management, PSLE kids may find it equally challenging. So it all really depends on the child...... -
I refer to DSA via backdoors as going in using sports or any other talent. Not those who went in through results.
I believe in challenging my boy. He has to prove himself capable to get into the school of his choice. If you DSA into the school and end up playing for the school more than studying. Tough to cope.
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