All About Preparing For PSLE
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Dreamgear:
:goodpost: Agree!I dont think that DSA by itself is a backdoor process. Getting into a school by psle doesnt mean the kid can handle the school expectations or ip base requirements, after all psle is hardly the platform to demostrade independence learning or time management skillset.
The fundemental remains that the parent should understand the child character and ability and match them to a school that best suits them, be it ip or non-ip.
Most schools do not anyhow award DSA to undeserving students, so I don't think DSA is a backdoor or DSA students are any less deserving than those entered with PSLE results. Even for students who DSA with sports, the schools do take into account their academic standards. My children are not into sports but I notice some of their friends who excel in sports do equally well academically. I believe they are often very disciplined and determined students with equally strong academic abilities as other students. -
wonderm:
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:goodpost: Agree!Dreamgear:
I dont think that DSA by itself is a backdoor process. Getting into a school by psle doesnt mean the kid can handle the school expectations or ip base requirements, after all psle is hardly the platform to demostrade independence learning or time management skillset.
The fundemental remains that the parent should understand the child character and ability and match them to a school that best suits them, be it ip or non-ip.
Most schools do not anyhow award DSA to undeserving students, so I don't think DSA is a backdoor or DSA students are any less deserving than those entered with PSLE results. Even for students who DSA with sports, the schools do take into account their academic standards. My children are not into sports but I notice some of their friends who excel in sports do equally well academically. I believe they are often very disciplined and determined students with equally strong academic abilities as other students.
Perhaps, they should explain what they meant by DSA = Backdoor ? -
firefly38:
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:goodpost: Agree!wonderm:
[quote=\"Dreamgear\"]I dont think that DSA by itself is a backdoor process. Getting into a school by psle doesnt mean the kid can handle the school expectations or ip base requirements, after all psle is hardly the platform to demostrade independence learning or time management skillset.
The fundemental remains that the parent should understand the child character and ability and match them to a school that best suits them, be it ip or non-ip.
Most schools do not anyhow award DSA to undeserving students, so I don't think DSA is a backdoor or DSA students are any less deserving than those entered with PSLE results. Even for students who DSA with sports, the schools do take into account their academic standards. My children are not into sports but I notice some of their friends who excel in sports do equally well academically. I believe they are often very disciplined and determined students with equally strong academic abilities as other students.
Perhaps, they should explain what they meant by DSA = Backdoor ?[/quote]Agree to wonderm & dreamgear.
All of us have the same number of hours everyday. Comparatively, DSA kids have to face demanding commitments of their time to their CCAs leaving them a lot less energy & time on their academics.
Perhaps some kids are indeed weaker but eventually the parents should understand their child & decide if top schools are really suitable. And for those of us who have kids who are more academically inclined, we still need to be aware. Some sec schools has more CCAs requirements, when we start loading these PSLE kids with extra CCAs, outcome might also be weaker academics too.....unlike those DSA kids who are used to having tight schedules & good time management, PSLE kids may find it equally challenging. So it all really depends on the child...... -
I refer to DSA via backdoors as going in using sports or any other talent. Not those who went in through results.
I believe in challenging my boy. He has to prove himself capable to get into the school of his choice. If you DSA into the school and end up playing for the school more than studying. Tough to cope. -
Kids should be taught how to handle stress. Not :siam:
PSLE is a minor hurdle. There are a lot of major challenges in life. They need to know how to stand up if they fall. I'm against cushioning their fall. I am pretty resilient by nature. Even my DH says that I'm a lot more tougher than him. -
Dreamgear:
Your stance and your cousin's experience are not in sync, what would you make of that?[/quote]My cousin's issue I will share next time. I do not see why one's failure should deter others. If he decides to go for ip, he must be responsible for his decision. But if he choose the O level program, it's acceptable to me too. Kids must be responsible for their choices.
I won't allow my son to DSA to any school. He has to go in because he is qualified. Not by any backdoors. Currently, I am teaching a few IP students who got in through DSA. Mad struggle for them now.TheAnswer:
[quote=\"VALyap\"]many parents think that DSA is a good option to IP schs...It may not be a good idea. To be able to handle the academic pressure from IP schs, the child needs to have at least T-score in top 10% range... or rather P4 to P5, consistently abv 85%. :rahrah:
Like some here had shared, there are kids (below 85% overall ) that got into IP in East or Bkt Timah or ACSI thru DSA, they are really facing the pressure. In the end, instead of helping them, they are struggling to catch up and ultimately their self-esteem lowered! Hence, it's a dis-service to the kids and some poor kids really demoralised. :imdrowning:
Many had pointed out IP is not for everyone and definitely the sch work load is not a walk-in-the park! :?: The teacher really teach less and expecting kids to learn more! The subject can be ahead of the curve sec 3/4 topics taught in sec 1/2. It is more of self-learning and reading ahead............. :imcool: -
TheAnswer:
Interesting.
My cousin's issue I will share next time. I do not see why one's failure should deter others. If he decides to go for ip, he must be responsible for his decision. But if he choose the O level program, it's acceptable to me too. Kids must be responsible for their choices.
So if your son is doing very well academically, and yet chooses to join his good friends who may choose 'O' level program, you would stand by the decision from a P6 boy? Or for whatever reason, he prefers a 2nd tier to a top tier school, you would agree as well? -
I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don’t see it as a transaction, or they are merely ‘playing for the school’.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals. -
wonderm:
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost: :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don't see it as a transaction, or they are merely 'playing for the school'.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals.
:love: dunno how many good post I must put to show how much I like this post.
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wonderm:
I support meritocracy and I believe kids should enter their desired schools with merits. However, merits do not only refer to PSLE T score. Kids who enter via DSA through non academic paths are just as deserving to me because they have shown to the school their strength in sports or PA in addition to a fairly strong academic track record.
In addition, many students take part actively in CCA in Sec school, not only DSA students. We talk a lot about character development (perseverance, resilience, teamwork, discipline, commitment etc.), to me, CCA participation is one of the best ways to develop these characters. It also gives the students a great sense of achievement and many build strong frienships which last a lifetime. It is no surprise that many students choose to join CCAs which require a lot of time and commitment. Many non-DSA students are doing it because they don't see it as a transaction, or they are merely 'playing for the school'.
There is much talk about having a more broad based definition of success and meritocracy. There is much criticism about over emphasis of exam results and there is a outcry for the need to have a truely holistic education. I think we parents need to have the right mindset. If all we want our children to do whole day is to study, study and more study and if we only value exam marks, I wonder what can MOE do to get us nearer to our goals.
Well said :goodpost: :salute:
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