DSA 2023

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00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2117722\" time=\"1693301161\" user_id=\"143605:

Other posters can correct me.

Long long ago, before IP, many top students can score very well in O levels and some disappeared, to better lands after. So then someone came up with IP and skip O (can keep more at home, only speculation...lol)

I have not research abt it but I heard that O levels can open opportunities overseas definitely. Depending on which country and unis. some have bridging pre entry. Good luck!

I had friends who went overseas immediately after Os to do foundation studies.
Reason for doing so is that foundation studies took 1 year only. They entered Uni earlier, and it was easier to get the course they wanted (Vet).

[Prislga]

wwjd.idkwhatiamdoing\" post_id=\"2117737\" time=\"1693305851\" user_id=\"201007:

I had friends who went overseas immediately after Os to do foundation studies.
Reason for doing so is that foundation studies took 1 year only. They entered Uni earlier, and it was easier to get the course they wanted (Vet).

Sounds like Australia.

[anxious789]

Smartiepants55\" post_id=\"2117732\" time=\"1693303925\" user_id=\"197279:

What are the other 2 schools?

SCGS and Nanyang but most likely not keen on Nanyang anymore as Chinese is her weakest subject. In any case, she hasn’t gotten the offers for these 2 schools yet.

Just asking in advance as got the MGS offer today n she said she thinks she performed the worse in MGS DSA but who knows cuz it’s just what she said and thinks and she might get rejection from the other schools. But all this while wondering why some ppl chose O level over IP/IB when they get AL6 or better so I guess it’s to keep overseas options open if parents can afford it.

[manorway]

anxious789\" post_id=\"2117739\" time=\"1693307422\" user_id=\"202673:

SCGS and Nanyang but most likely not keen on Nanyang anymore as Chinese is her weakest subject. In any case, she hasn’t gotten the offers for these 2 schools yet.

Just asking in advance as got the MGS offer today n she said she thinks she performed the worse in MGS DSA but who knows cuz it’s just what she said and thinks and she might get rejection from the other schools. But all this while wondering why some ppl chose O level over IP/IB when they get AL6 or better so I guess it’s to keep overseas options open if parents can afford it.

Other reasons why some may choose O levels over IP when their PSLE scores can qualify:
- IP schools are too far when there is a really convenient school that they like right by their door step
- No ESIS for AL6 even if one goes to IP school and the fees are considered a bit too much compared to Express school nearby
- the AL6 was unexpected. Kid always scored worse. So parents/kid not confident kid will continue to do so well and may crumble under stress if join IP school
- Always prefer O levels as it is more structured and scoring AL6 or not is irrelevant
- Have not decided whether to do A levels or IB so stay in Express will give kid another 4 years to decide
- think it is better to be top of a school than to join IP and be the bottom of cohort.

All above are based on true stories.

[enivi]

Dear all, if affordability is a consideration for IP schools. For independent schools with $400/month sch fees, aren’t there financial assistance which the family can apply for with the school?


Wonder if there is any FAS and what’s the household income requirement for these IP schools?

[Icekachang]

enivi\" post_id=\"2117751\" time=\"1693320056\" user_id=\"40961:

Dear all, if affordability is a consideration for IP schools. For independent schools with $400/month sch fees, aren't there financial assistance which the family can apply for with the school?

Wonder if there is any FAS and what's the household income requirement for these IP schools?

I read the email and it stated eligibility for financial assistance would be for those with
Less than $10000 total household monthly income or less than $2500 per capita gross monthly household income (ie divided by number of household members)

[manorway]

enivi\" post_id=\"2117751\" time=\"1693320056\" user_id=\"40961:

Dear all, if affordability is a consideration for IP schools. For independent schools with $400/month sch fees, aren't there financial assistance which the family can apply for with the school?

Wonder if there is any FAS and what's the household income requirement for these IP schools?

There are people I know who get FAS. But the FAS only covers school fees and some basic materials. The parents may also have to worry about other factors like the child's ability to catch up/fit in and I don't think the FAS covers tuition.

[anxious789]

I checked the cut-off for SNGS for IP track is 4(D) - 7(M) and SEC is 5 - 8. In that case, for someone getting AL5, it wouldn’t be because these girls are aiming for second chance for RI-JC and HCI-JC cuz with AL5 for PSLE, they could have gone to RGS & RI-JC or Nanyang & HCI-JC which has cut-off of 6 and 7D? So these group of students deliberately chose SEC over IP and it’s not because they don’t want to go to Euonia and aiming for 2nd chance at RI/HCI JC. They could also have easily gone to MGS if they wanted IB.


For those who chose SEC MGS with AL6, I believe distance shouldn’t play a part if they wanted IP as SCGS, NJC, Nanyang are not that far from MGS so other than being an MGS fan, wondering why they deliberately chose SEC over IP. your explanation that they put it as 1st n 2nd choice makes the most sense or perhaps it’s due to special cca offered in MGS like artistic swimming.

Just wanted to know the thought process of those who deliberately choose SEC vs IP/IB.

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2117727\" time=\"1693302083\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2117727 time=1693302083 user_id=53606]From School Finder
MGS IB track: 4-6
MGS SEC (O level track): 6-8 (non-affiliates); 7-17 (affiliates)

I pointed out the above to highlight the fact that no one scoring 4 or 5 applied for MGS O level track. Those at 6 could have applied for both as 1st and 2nd choice, respectively, hence some got in IB track while those balloted out got their 2nd choice of O level track. The group who are MGS fans, do not voluntarily choose O levels over IB track.

There are other dual-track schools where the O level track is more popular than the IP track. This is because the partner JC (Eunoia JC) is not attractive to them. They are aiming to get a 2nd chance, 4 years later, to enter RI-JC or HCI-JC, failing which, NYJC.

I’m not sure if Australian uni foundation courses accept internal Y4 school results from IB/IP schools. But for UK, I heard some 6th form colleges do look at IP Y3 results, and/or set entrance exams for foreign students. Already know of several RGS girls going this route.[/quote]

[anxious789]

Thanks for listing the reasons. For No 1, I agree it could be the case except for those that choose O over Ip in dual track schools cuz then distance is no longer a factor.


This website states: Students are awarded the ESIS for:

4 years, if they are in the O-Level programme.
6 years, if they are in the 6-year programme.

https://www.moe.gov.sg/financial-matters/awards-scholarships/edusave-scholarships-independent

I assume 6 year programme include all local IP/IB schools?

manorway\" post_id=\"2117741\" time=\"1693308086\" user_id=\"9303:

Other reasons why some may choose O levels over IP when their PSLE scores can qualify:
- IP schools are too far when there is a really convenient school that they like right by their door step
- No ESIS for AL6 even if one goes to IP school and the fees are considered a bit too much compared to Express school nearby
- the AL6 was unexpected. Kid always scored worse. So parents/kid not confident kid will continue to do so well and may crumble under stress if join IP school
- Always prefer O levels as it is more structured and scoring AL6 or not is irrelevant
- Have not decided whether to do A levels or IB so stay in Express will give kid another 4 years to decide
- think it is better to be top of a school than to join IP and be the bottom of cohort.

All above are based on true stories.

[aktivate]

Consolidating the DSA release date from the list from previous post


Slight reformatting for easy reference. Feel free to Edit, Add, Delete accordingly.

DSA 2023 Results Released Dates as of today.


1st week of Aug 2023
Nan Chiau - Sports

4 August 2023
NUSH
Fuhua Secondary
Nan Chiau High - Visual Arts
Chung Cheng High Yishun - Guzheng Ensemble
Bendemeer - Tchoukball

8 August 2023
VS - Track and Field (Verbal)

11 August 2023
Nan Hua High (Rejection)

17 August 2023
RI - Hockey

18 August 2023
SJI - Track and Field

19 August 2023
SOTA

21 August 2023
HCI - Infocom, Science, Math

22 August 2023
Xinmin
ACSI - Sports T&F, Robotics

23 August 2023
BGSS - Tchoukball
SST

25 August 2023
RGS - Sports, English, Sci, Math, MEP, AEP
CHIJ TPY

29 August 2023
MGS - STEM

30 August 2023