DSA 2023

[SG_KP1]

yayoi\" post_id=\"2119921\" time=\"1696304056\" user_id=\"57130:

Hi can I check if the child enters into the secondary school via DSA O level track but does well enough in PSLE to achieve the IP track in the same school (school offers both IP and O level). Is it possible to appeal to transfer to IP track instead?

Hi. You can appeal but I believe you are appealing along with everyone else that hit the IP COP. Whether there is any preference given to the DSA O Level kids is hard to say / probably depends on the school and the student (some schools have said that the DSA O Level kids will be high on the list, whatever that means). Unfortunately, there does not appear to be any ability to automatically \"upgrade\" based on the results. Hence, I think the ability to switch tracks is based on a) vacancy becoming available (probably not many spots) and b) the school selecting you to give the IP spot to.

Good luck and hope your kid enjoys the last few weeks of primary school (not sure if done today or still needs to sit for HMT tomorrow).

[zac's mum]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2119929\" time=\"1696305058\" user_id=\"188234:

Hi. You can appeal but I believe you are appealing along with everyone else that hit the IP COP. Whether there is any preference given to the DSA O Level kids is hard to say / probably depends on the school and the student (some schools have said that the DSA O Level kids will be high on the list, whatever that means). Unfortunately, there does not appear to be any ability to automatically \"upgrade\" based on the results. Hence, I think the ability to switch tracks is based on a) vacancy becoming available (probably not many spots) and b) the school selecting you to give the IP spot to.

Good luck and hope your kid enjoys the last few weeks of primary school (not sure if done today or still needs to sit for HMT tomorrow).

That was my initial thought too, but then i realized that the S1 posting appeals take place only on the day of posting results.

For DSA students, upon PSLE results day, I guess u can go straight to the school to appeal on that day itself. No idea whether they will entertain u, but u can try. If successful, it will free up an Express seat for the S1 posting folks (as well as subtract from IP LOL).

[SG_KP1]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2119930\" time=\"1696306006\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2119930 time=1696306006 user_id=53606]
That was my initial thought too, but then i realized that the S1 posting appeals take place only on the day of posting results.

For DSA students, upon PSLE results day, I guess u can go straight to the school to appeal on that day itself. No idea whether they will entertain u, but u can try. If successful, it will free up an Express seat for the S1 posting folks (as well as subtract from IP LOL).[/quote]

I'm not 100% sure but I would think that any spots (IP and O) not taken by COs or converted WLs will be released to the S1 Posting process (for the respective track). Even if a school has more IP DSA capacity (below 30%-35% or whatever percentage they are comfortable with), I'm not sure they can \"take back\" a spot from the S1 process (and give a spot to the O track). I would think the vacancy numbers become fixed at the point CO/WL outcomes are finalized, but who knows.

As for banging on the door on the day of PSLE results, I guess that is a good point. There were a few people last year that received and accepted O, although I think the IP COP was well within the expected range for the student. Nevertheless, I believe most of them gave little chance to the prospects of switching tracks (based on what was wrote above), and accepted O assuming that's where the child will be. I'm not sure how things turned out, and if you raise your hand in late-Nov or late-Dec (if trying to switch tracks).

[Elson]

I think I saw some news that this year DSA application was higher compared to last year. So is the DSA intake for those IP schools higher than last year? Will this impact the cutoff points to even lower for the few limited vacancies now?

[SG_KP1]

Elson\" post_id=\"2120041\" time=\"1696425156\" user_id=\"136390:

I think I saw some news that this year DSA application was higher compared to last year. So is the DSA intake for those IP schools higher than last year? Will this impact the cutoff points to even lower for the few limited vacancies now?

I think it is most likely that the IP DSA intake is about the same year to year. I believe most of the IP schools will be at/near capacity (30%-35% for most, maybe 40% for one/a couple/some), although there are probably some schools that are not absolutely full (not all COs taken up, still some space after all WLs converted, etc).

Note, this year's cohort size is probably going to be ~1,000 students larger than last year's cohort size. If the same percentage of students qualify for Express/G3, that could be ~800 add'l students to fit into the non-IP G3 schools (opposite of last year when there were about 1,400 fewer students to be posted to this group of schools). There could also be slightly more students at AL6 or AL8/9 looking for IP spots in the S1 posting.

We don't see the details but there could also be (slight) fluctuations year-to-year in performance and choice (in addition to DSA intake and affiliated students' performance/choice), so it is hard to map anything 1:1 or be absolutely certain of why COPs move. However, in the aggregate there are likely some reasonable assumptions that can be made.

[CoolSotongMom]

Elson\" post_id=\"2120041\" time=\"1696425156\" user_id=\"136390:

I think I saw some news that this year DSA application was higher compared to last year. So is the DSA intake for those IP schools higher than last year? Will this impact the cutoff points to even lower for the few limited vacancies now?

I was just chatting with my friend about this yesterday.

Last year is the year of Tiger. Hence the birth rate is lower as compared to previous year and this year. If you noticed, last year some of the schools cut off point are higher (Easier to get in). I did advise my friend to put a cut off point either the same or higher for her kid's first choice. In general, Rabbit birth rates are higher and hence more students for the same number of space. I suppose same goes to DSA assuming schools did not increase the intake.

[PaPaB]

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[happygal78]

Hi parents, I would like to find out more about DSA, IP vs IB. Can any kind souls share some information with me? Many thanks. Trying to find out more , in order to gauge whether I should try for DSA next year or not or whether he stands any chance. My son has won 2 science Olympiad, 2 math Olympiad this year, prefect, won bronze for NSG this year. He was topped in his cohort past few years. Appreciate some advices. Thanks a million.

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happygal78\" post_id=\"2120607\" time=\"1697162097\" user_id=\"68744:

Hi parents, I would like to find out more about DSA, IP vs IB. Can any kind souls share some information with me? Many thanks. Trying to find out more , in order to gauge whether I should try for DSA next year or not or whether he stands any chance. My son has won 2 science Olympiad, 2 math Olympiad this year, prefect, won bronze for NSG this year. He was topped in his cohort past few years. Appreciate some advices. Thanks a million.

I think it depends on where you want to focus. If trying DSA for science or math, your son will likely be competing with others that also won Olympiad for math/science. If trying for DSA leadership, competing with others that are also prefects or active in external communities roles. If trying for DSA sport, others students may have won gold. And i think there maybe DSA domain obligations that the child must fulfill for 4 years if the place is offered via DSA. Since he consistently topped his cohort, he can get into any non specialised school via S1 posting instead of trying for DSA, and can also help others by giving the DSA selection slot to them .

[yitchieh]

I am just making plan for next year DSA but not familiar with the system…Lets say the child manage to get in to DSA in an IP sch… But what if her actual PSLE results is far from the AL score requirement stated in MOE website example AL 4 to 6. Can she still enter the school?