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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      Wanderer1231:
      Umm...my question is directed at the scenario that an IP student attempt the dsa route into JC. But thanks for the reply!


      So, you mentioned that academic dsa is no longer an option, what about other aspects, like talent in programming/writing ect? Do you know of any instances whereby competence demonstrated in those fields is taken into considerstion? Thanks!
      Let's take a look at Anderson Junior College, year 4 DSA Application Form.

      Besides the usual DSA routes like Cca (Sports) or Performing Arts stuff, which is common, since ex Psle time already have all these Cca stuff, AJC is also looking for talents, in other specific areas as well :-

      - programming coding (bingo ! That's where your child talent lies in),

      - Scientific Research projects undertaken, via Clubs. So, they are looking at the type (nature) of Research projects you have worked upon, before.

      But, AJC didn't ask for Talent in \"creative writing\".

      https://ajc.moe.edu.sg/admissions/direct-school-admission-dsa-1

      That means, if u apply for DSA into Anderson JC via \"programming\" talent, AJC can process your Application form. But if apply via \"Creative writing\", cannot process, because AJC didn't even open up this channel, for DSA potential candidates.

      At end of Year 4, several students will be applying for DSA into Polytechnic, into Junior Colleges. Can be O-level candidates, or can be IP students as well, although rare IP students, but still possible.

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      • Wanderer1231W Offline
        Wanderer1231
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        But is dsa at this point in time still possible? Why does transfer require dsa? Can just submit application letter and relevant materials right? If the jc thinks you have potential, they might call you for an interview or something?

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          FantasyLandDreams
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          Hi

          I would like to check if there is option to do Normal Chinese instead of HCL , in RI, RGS, NYGH, HCI?
          Or is it that HCL is compulsory in these 4 schools at Sec 1?

          Also, I heard that O level track students will get 2 bonus points for JC admission for doing HCL? Please correct me if wrong? For IP students, no such ‘benefit’ right, perhaps only saving time of one year in JC1 to study other subjects instead, as I assume HCL O Level paper would already been taken at Sec 4? Not sure how the system works now as I have not been keeping track on this HCL in Secondary thingy.

          Anyone can advise on the above? Thank you very much.

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            jtoh
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            FantasyLandDreams:
            Hi

            I would like to check if there is option to do Normal Chinese instead of HCL , in RI, RGS, NYGH, HCI?
            Or is it that HCL is compulsory in these 4 schools at Sec 1?

            Also, I heard that O level track students will get 2 bonus points for JC admission for doing HCL? Please correct me if wrong? For IP students, no such 'benefit' right, perhaps only saving time of one year in JC1 to study other subjects instead, as I assume HCL O Level paper would already been taken at Sec 4? Not sure how the system works now as I have not been keeping track on this HCL in Secondary thingy.

            Anyone can advise on the above? Thank you very much.
            Yes, you can choose to do CL instead of HCL at RGS and RI. I'm not sure about NYGH and HCI.

            There's no need for HCL bonus points in IP. If you pass HCL at O level in Year 4, you can, depending on your grade, be excused from taking CL in Years 5/6. In RGS, you need to have passed HCL at minimum D7 (iirc) to be excused from taking CL at A levels. If you think you can do better, you're welcome to take CL at JC. The minimum grade to be excused from taking CL in HCI/NYGH in Years 5/6 is B4, I believe. HCI/NYGH parents would have better info on this.

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              ngl2010
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              jtoh:
              FantasyLandDreams:

              Hi

              I would like to check if there is option to do Normal Chinese instead of HCL , in RI, RGS, NYGH, HCI?
              Or is it that HCL is compulsory in these 4 schools at Sec 1?

              Also, I heard that O level track students will get 2 bonus points for JC admission for doing HCL? Please correct me if wrong? For IP students, no such 'benefit' right, perhaps only saving time of one year in JC1 to study other subjects instead, as I assume HCL O Level paper would already been taken at Sec 4? Not sure how the system works now as I have not been keeping track on this HCL in Secondary thingy.

              Anyone can advise on the above? Thank you very much.

              Yes, you can choose to do CL instead of HCL at RGS and RI. I'm not sure about NYGH and HCI.

              There's no need for HCL bonus points in IP. If you pass HCL at O level in Year 4, you can, depending on your grade, be excused from taking CL in Years 5/6. In RGS, you need to have passed HCL at minimum D7 (iirc) to be excused from taking CL at A levels. If you think you can do better, you're welcome to take CL at JC. The minimum grade to be excused from taking CL in HCI/NYGH in Years 5/6 is B4, I believe. HCI/NYGH parents would have better info on this.

              C6 in RI

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                FantasyLandDreams
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                Thanks, jtoh and ngl2010.

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                  sky minecrafter
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                  Sharing... https://www.mindstretcher.com/events/key-skills-for-english-language-arts?fbclid=IwAR2LmxP-v7v6ftIxceKJEF3vurwgdHS_VfZVbUYzA5mbgZh1K_cI0xa_SZg (Mind Stretcher). Program outlines look all-encompassing. However, IP schools tend to supply their own notes (of similar content), so perhaps more applicable for participants looking to study in advance?

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                    kboon2009
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                    Sorry for the noob question… is the core curriculum offered by the respective IP schools similar, or are they free to design their own? Any difference between independent schools (eg RGS/NYGH) and government schools (eg DHS)?

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                      sharonkhoo
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                      Every school designs its own. However, the main content is really very similar as I presume MOE requires certain things. How lessons and acitivities are designed will differ, and school culture and emphases, etc will also differ. Most schools will have the A levels in mind as the eventual end point, and some the IB.

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                        phtthp
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                        kboon2009\" post_id=\"1908637\" time=\"1556809178\" user_id=\"8933:

                        Sorry for the noob question.. is the core curriculum offered by the respective IP schools similar, or are they free to design their own? Any difference between independent schools (eg RGS/NYGH) and government schools (eg DHS)?
                        They all differ, in the way how they want to conduct, to teach their own IP curriculum.

                        The common A-level MOE syllabus is only there, serve as a guide-line only, but individual IP school have the autonomy as to how they want their ip students to carry out their ip project work studies, their practical IP laboratory work assignments, their weekly assignment worksheets, their activities (research modules), their own in-house talent development programme, their unique qualifying criteria, attachment research exposure / experience to nus department professors, to assist them etc.

                        Even if we don't bring in the independent schools like (raffles girls / nanyang girls), even amongst the government IP a-level schools themselves (eg. Dunman high, national jc, temasek jc, eunoia jc), the type of IP (individual / group) work assignments, can already differ, from one ip school to another.

                        Since IP schools open house are round the corner, suggest perhaps visit their open house, besides visit independent schools' open house : can ask the upper sec (3 and 4) to Junior college level (jc1 and jc2 level) individual subject teachers (staff), what they teach, what they cover in each semester, once ask them in greater detail, u may be able to feel the difference ...

                        E.g.

                        In lower sec 1, semester 1 : some IP schools prefer to teach integrated science , meaning inside one same term, every week, teach (bio / chem / physics), concurrently.

                        And then, when come to do science ip project -
                        Whether you want to design a science project, that involve both (physics and chem) application knowledge, or involve both (bio and chem) knowledge, or involve both (physics and bio), or involve all the 3 sciences together in the same project, it is up to you (IP student), to decide, which one u are comfortable with. There is flexibility.

                        Whereas, in another IP school, teaching staff may prefer : ok, for this term 1 (sec 1), let's teach physics. Come next term 2, let's teach chemistry. Come term 3 : then, teach lower secondary biology

                        Independent school fees : charge $300 Plus, per month. They can hire industry experienced staff, from external industry, to teach certain science topics , in depth. These teachers, hired from outside, are very experienced. As such, through their rich working experience gleaned (gained), sometimes they can share their working experience with these IP students, beyond their a-level syllabus. That's why, in some independent IP schools, many students tend to excel in certain, particular a-level h2 subjects. Very strong

                        Government IP schools -
                        students paid around $28, per month. Moe to deploy their own internal staff, to teach.

                        $28 vs. $300 plus school fees, is a big contrast.

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