PSLE 2012 - Results Discussion

[weatherbee]

jtoh:

glenax:

[quote=\"RenLaoShi\"]hey guys. any school can produce one or two top students. However, what I want to know more is the quality passes. For example, how many get A or A*, how many students score 250 and above.

Its already so hard to know the top score, it is unlikely for the school to breakdown the quality of passes.

Thats what I dont like about the whole hush hush thing. Lack of transparency.

Now that they cover up the top schools, they are also not giving a chance of the breakout schools that did well in a particular year, so going forward people will be stuck with the impression of good schools of the current era for a long long time.

Do you have children in P6? Didn't your school share breakdown of P6 stats with you?[/quote]By the way, I wonder why the parents of P6 students want to know about the stats since their children have already finished their exams and will be moving on to secondary school. It doesn't matter so much to them if the school doesn't do particularly well right? I would think that parents in other levels are more concern to know or parents in K2, looking to register their children into the school next year.

[Layla]

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By the way, I wonder why the parents of P6 students want to know about the stats since their children have already finished their exams and will be moving on to secondary school. It doesn't matter so much to them if the school doesn't do particularly well right? I would think that parents in other levels are more concern to know or parents in K2, looking to register their children into the school next year.[/quote]
I guess as parent of P6, I would like to know how my child has performed relative to her cohort. That is, if she gets 78 and the highest is 85, then I would know why...
Secondly, some of us have more than 1 child. AS such, I would like to know how my child fared (in comparision) and how I can improve if there is a need for my other child. :roll:

[weatherbee]

Layla:

By the way, I wonder why the parents of P6 students want to know about the stats since their children have already finished their exams and will be moving on to secondary school. It doesn't matter so much to them if the school doesn't do particularly well right? I would think that parents in other levels are more concern to know or parents in K2, looking to register their children into the school next year.[/quote]
I guess as parent of P6, I would like to know how my child has performed relative to her cohort. That is, if she gets 78 and the highest is 85, then I would know why...
Secondly, some of us have more than 1 child. AS such, I would like to know how my child fared (in comparision) and how I can improve if there is a need for my other child. :roll:[/quote]

That's my point. I find it more important for parents of children in other levels to know because then if the school doesn't do well then we can work with teachers to see how we can help our children. Or for eg if the school doesn't do well in Science, then we can get external help for Science.

[jtoh]

You mean your schools don’t release these stats to your P5 students and parents?

[august24]

My kids sch is one of those that does not release quality passes statistics to P5/P6 students. Maybe they do release during psle results day last yr (I don’t know), but definitely not this yr.

[Precious2.012911lee]

Schools should release the stat to parents from all levels and not just to P5 parents. P1 parents need to know too so we can monitor the trend to decide the next course of action. For example, if consecutively for 2 years, quality passes for math is only 40% and this % never improve or worse still, has dropped, parents need to question the school what is the problem?? Is it problem with the P? HOD? Or teachers not strong or not motivated to teach? Or is it poor teaching materials?? Very important to know the root cause and improve. In worst scenario, some parents may also wish to transfer their children out from that school at P3 or P4. This may be a bit extreme but at least, parents knows early that external help is definitely required!!

[teacher_girl]

janet_lee88:

phankao:

[quote=\"janet_lee88\"]

So moving on, I really hope my son will get to enjoy his school :xedfingers: and TEACHERS WHO TEACH. I am not asking for too much right ?
Ultimately, this is the REASON why our kids go to school.

I really wish this is the case. My boy who just finished Sec 1 this year - we had to get him a Math tutor halfway thru the year. And he improved significantly. And when I asked him why, he said he understands his tutor, but he doesn't understand his school teacher even when he approaches the teacher for clarification. And... his school teacher is always \"so busy\". Make appointment and 90% of the time don't turn up or is rushing to go off.

I think will need to get him a Science tutor soon too for Sec 2, so he can understand his school syllabus instead of bungling thru with school teachers.

*sigh*. when I was in sec sch, it was the school tr who helped me improve significantly. Not a tutor that we have to pay extra money to.

So that means sec and primary school is the same? Tutors, not teachers help child understand syllabus :faint: I am having my worries about son and whether he can cope with math and science. Die lah, 8-9 subjects.[/quote]Just a heads up!
Math in sec1 is very similar to primary school.
The problem comes in a lot in sec2 when algebra comes in.

History, geography and literature is very closely linked to English itself.

A typical kid takes about 10 subjects in sec1-2 (not all at same time though) but you really shouldn't worry about tuition teachers, I'm sure there are really good teachers in school. In case that teacher is not available, there are many other teachers of the same subject/department available in that school too. Encourage your child to make friends with good friends so that they can each other too.

[phankao]

teacher_girl:

janet_lee88:

[quote=\"phankao\"]

I really wish this is the case. My boy who just finished Sec 1 this year - we had to get him a Math tutor halfway thru the year. And he improved significantly. And when I asked him why, he said he understands his tutor, but he doesn't understand his school teacher even when he approaches the teacher for clarification. And... his school teacher is always \"so busy\". Make appointment and 90% of the time don't turn up or is rushing to go off.

I think will need to get him a Science tutor soon too for Sec 2, so he can understand his school syllabus instead of bungling thru with school teachers.

*sigh*. when I was in sec sch, it was the school tr who helped me improve significantly. Not a tutor that we have to pay extra money to.

So that means sec and primary school is the same? Tutors, not teachers help child understand syllabus :faint: I am having my worries about son and whether he can cope with math and science. Die lah, 8-9 subjects.

Just a heads up!
Math in sec1 is very similar to primary school.
The problem comes in a lot in sec2 when algebra comes in. .[/quote]haha - then I must have rather stupid children then since at least 2 of my older ones find Sec 1 math difficult enough to fail badly. They do algebra from Term 1 of Sec 1, leh, not from Sec 2.

[janet88]

History, Geog, literature are related to English…math and science included.

The English teacher who manned the booth at Hillgrove is very experienced and explained what is expected of sec 1s, books to read, components taught.

I hope he will be able to excel in the care of the teachers, if he is successfully posted there.

[BluryMom]

Precious2.lee:

Schools should release the stat to parents from all levels and not just to P5 parents. P1 parents need to know too so we can monitor the trend to decide the next course of action. For example, if consecutively for 2 years, quality passes for math is only 40% and this % never improve or worse still, has dropped, parents need to question the school what is the problem?? Is it problem with the P? HOD? Or teachers not strong or not motivated to teach? Or is it poor teaching materials?? Very important to know the root cause and improve. In worst scenario, some parents may also wish to transfer their children out from that school at P3 or P4. This may be a bit extreme but at least, parents knows early that external help is definitely required!!

Maybe they see it coming hence not telling/informing you to save the explanation.