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    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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      An eg of landlord fm hell? Thought a new lease. 8mths left need to ‘plan’ till like this…

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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        Estéema\" post_id=\"2060469\" time=\"1646309699\" user_id=\"66413:

        Early Termination (amt <$20K) - SCTC

        Agent misconduct - CEA

        (Let CEA ‘love’ such agents ‘sack doe loong’ in Cantonese). We need to hv truly professional Real Esstate Agents

        HDB rules contravene (support with TA - HDB

        To get more attention/publicity for case - Stomp

        hahaha (the last just my cheeky suggestion)
        I thought of your last suggestion also..power of internet 😂

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        • EstéemaE Offline
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          MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2060471\" time=\"1646310316\" user_id=\"43981:

          I thought of your last suggestion also..power of internet 😂
          Yes lot. How can anyone escape many eyes on screen. The power of keyboard with factual evidence, even the King can’t hide in the mountain!

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          • MrsKiasuM Offline
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            I m just thinking hor…if tenant’s case is strong, just go and start the legal proceedings. I just think that there are stages and up to tenant to stop at which stage. There may be chance of settlement before court appearance whatsoever as I think the stake is high on the LL…not only court decision at the end but CEA may investigate also.

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              MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2060474\" time=\"1646311958\" user_id=\"43981:

              I m just thinking hor..if tenant's case is strong, just go and start the legal proceedings. I just think that there are stages and up to tenant to stop at which stage. There may be chance of settlement before court appearance whatsoever as I think the stake is high on the LL..not only court decision at the end but CEA may investigate also.
              I can u’stand esp those who fear the high costs of the legal process. Moreover, for those who always think they hv an upper-hand, their mentality is they can abuse ‘ignorance’ of legal rights of the under-dogs by insisting their own narratives.

              But hor, those who are stiff in their belief they can always win & work the system to their adv, will hv the justice scale falling upon them someday.

              Our society is also more informed & many are learning just as we’ll sharing thro social media & access to learn fr many authoritative tracks to seek recourse for their grief. I always believe in the Higher Hands meeting out justice to those who bully, take advantage or abuse their authorities, where man-made legal system fails to catch them.

              Belief me, if this LL’s/agent’s misdeed is officially found as errant, there’s no place to hide that face in red dot S’pore. The shame ....

              That’s why we hv those who work pro-bono to avail legal assistance to uphold justice or provide some relieve & access to legal services.

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              • ChiefKiasuC Offline
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                Just wondering… what’s the use of suing? Would the tenant be willing to move back to the place if he wins? Or is he going to be paid some extra $$$ for damages? How much money are we talking about here?

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                • EstéemaE Offline
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                  ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2060489\" time=\"1646352841\" user_id=\"3:

                  Just wondering... what's the use of suing? Would the tenant be willing to move back to the place if he wins? Or is he going to be paid some extra $$$ for damages? How much money are we talking about here?
                  Definitely no way to move back. I’m sure by now the tenants ELD hv signed ano tenancy to live somewhere else & possibly at higher rent.

                  Think lee mentioned 3 mths deposit. Depending on location & size of unit, it can be anywhere btwn $7.5 to $10K thereabouts. For healthcare workers, esp foreigners, that’s a big sum. These are hard earned money to the tenants. In anycase, it’s not just the amt but the integrity of contract & how it reflects on Spore system of justice.

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                  • lee_ylL Offline
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                    MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2060470\" time=\"1646310243\" user_id=\"43981:

                    An eg of landlord fm hell? Thought a new lease. 8mths left need to 'plan' till like this..
                    The unit was rented out to the tenant at $2600/mth.
                    We saw the landlord advertising on internet asking for $4000/mth. 5-rm flat in town.

                    So I guess every month the landlord thinks she is ‘losing’ money so LL thinks of all kind of ways to evict the tenant.

                    Very shocked the LL can think of using the termination letter from HDB to evict tenant. And more shocking, the next moment, the unit was put on rent on the market again.

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                      Estéema\" post_id=\"2060493\" time=\"1646359682\" user_id=\"66413:

                      Definitely no way to move back. I’m sure by now the tenants ELD hv signed ano tenancy to live somewhere else & possibly at higher rent.

                      Think lee mentioned 3 mths deposit. Depending on location & size of unit, it can be anywhere btwn $7.5 to $10K thereabouts. For healthcare workers, esp foreigners, that’s a big sum. These are hard earned money to the tenants. In anycase, it’s not just the amt but the integrity of contract & how it reflects on Spore system of justice.
                      That’s why I helped the tenant for free. I see them so poor thing. Past few months I brought the tenant to HDB, CEA, police station and lawyer firm.

                      Went to make police report, police asked us to report to HDB, went to HDB, they asked us to go see a lawyer for TA dispute. Went to see lawyer, lawyer said make police report for harassment and wrote to HDB as well. In the end, we just went around in circles.

                      Last week I asked tenant any news from CEA after 4 months, she said no. I offered to write in again but tenant declined, she said the landlord (also an agent herself) threatened her (and co-tenants) that if they tried destroy her career, she would also go to their workplace to destroy their career. The tenants were extremely scared of the LL now.

                      The tenant has since moved out after LL broke in with locksmith and police. The tenant has also given up about getting back their 3 months deposit.

                      These few months I tried to think of many ways to help them but I have run out of ideas too. Just feeling depressed that despite all these injustices, nothing much can be done.

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                        Last week I asked tenant any news from CEA after 4 months, she said no. I offered to write in again but tenant declined, she said the landlord (also an agent herself) threatened her (and co-tenants) that if they tried destroy her career, she would also go to their workplace to destroy their career. The tenants were extremely scared of the LL now.

                        The tenant has since moved out after LL broke in with locksmith and police. The tenant has also given up about getting back their 3 months deposit.

                        These few months I tried to think of many ways to help them but I have run out of ideas too. Just feeling depressed that despite all these injustices, nothing much can be done.
                        This is just terrible. It's plain bullying. Unless there's some good reason why the 3 months deposit should be forfeited for maintenance of the flat, keeping the deposit while removing the tenants while still on contract is definitely robbing and stealing. We cannot let this continue. @Esteema, what is our recourse?

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