DSA 2012
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jtoh:
255 was quoted from Snow Crystal's reply.
I thought the preferential COP for NYPS to NYGH is 250? Has it been raised?Whylikethat888:
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Last year's batch took it personally because despite their capability (getting into RGS & NUSH), they felt that NYGH never even gave them a chance. As for 255, it only a 7 marks discount from last year's COP. Many other affiliated / top tier schools have much lower cut off points and thus, a stronger sense of affiliation.
There must be a clear distinction between DSA and the lower COP. Students DSA to have a peace of mind and when they are fairly certain the secondary school is a good fit for them. Many also do so due to good feelings they have for sister school.
If the message to them is \" better not DSA because you have lower COP already, give other weaker students from schools a greater chance to DSA\", it is very demoralizing for the whole cohort. It seems a pity because as most people know, NYPS standards are generally higher / more stressful from day one so to be turned down so early ( after years of slogging) is regarded as a slap in the face for many.
As quoted by someone prominent, \" The strength of the family, like the strength of an army, is loyalty to each other\".
Allowing talented and unique girls into NYGH via DSA does not mean they are not capable in terms of academic results. Many of last year's \"rejects\" have proven that indeed, they easily surpassed the COP of 250 with ease but were never given the chance via DSA. This year, some parents have indeed asked their DDs not to bother to DSA into NYGH but instead just aim for RGS/ NUSH. As mentioned earlier, it's sad and a loss to the Nanyang family. -
Whylikethat888:
Did these talented individuals apply under academics or CCA? If by academics - to be rejected under DSA for mainstreamers by Raffles/HC IPs is very common and acceptable. Never ever take it that if our mainstream kid is rejected means the kid is no good or not good enough for that school or even worse think the IP is hao lian to reject your bright kid :slapshead:
Thanks! I can see your point although from what we hear, there were quite a few talented individuals who were very serious about going to NYGH last year & were bitterly disappointed. They were upset because they felt that NYGH did not appreciate their strong loyalty and Nanyang spirit. Obviously, these students enjoyed and cherished the NYPS experience particularly under the capable Madam Heng. .
Reason being most of the seats for these top IPs' DSA are reserved for GEPs and CCA/sportsmen etc. The DSA seats for mainstreamers by academics are extremely limited - probably only around 10% to 15% of total 225 DSA seats for each of these top IPs. Thus they want to be really selective for the academic kids... Most non-affiliated top girls will get into NYGH by S1 and most top NYPS girls can get in via affiliation. So for academics, they can pick and choose the ultimate superb ones eg MO Platinum or those with special talent in writing etc but overall past year results may not hit their extremely high 262 S1 COP ...
NYPS girls already got discounted ticket to NYGH - so why queue and squeeze with other Sch girls to get into the same show?
Bottom-line for mainstreamers - please don't be disheartened or take it personally for any DSA rejection. Stay focused on PSLE! At that time, you choose school, not school choose you
All the best to your kid Whylikethat888! -
Whylikethat888:
Above is very encouraging statement for the mainstreamers. Thanks for such statement.
Bottom-line for mainstreamers - please don't be disheartened or take it personally for any DSA rejection. Stay focused on PSLE! At that time, you choose school, not school choose you
All the best to your kid Whylikethat888! -
mamona:
Most welcome. We come here to care and share. Being a parent of mainstreamer kids, I fully understand most of the frustrations and insecurity they face. Jiayou to all mainstreamers!
Above is very encouraging statement for the mainstreamers. Thanks for such statement. -
Snow Crystal:
RGS has not have such affiliation scheme for their old girls even their DSA are given to those achieve good results for GEP or sport talented students and the rest enter via PSLE merit. To ensure the high ability students they accept are the top top ones, may be NYGH also going along this line. Not to forget the final competition at the two end schools is a always 'A' level results mah.
Not raised ...yet... :evil:jtoh:
I thought the preferential COP for NYPS to NYGH is 250? Has it been raised?
No lah, it's still 250. Whylikethat888 is using my earlier example of 255 - I had mentioned that a NYPS girl in top class capable of scoring 255 and above (quite safe number) for PSLE usually may not even need to apply NYGH DSA... -
Otah:
RGS has not have such affiliation scheme for their old girls even their DSA are given to those achieve good results for GEP or sport talented students and the rest enter via PSLE merit. To ensure the high ability students they accept are the top top ones, may be NYGH also going along this line. Not to forget the final competition at the two end schools is a always 'A' level results mah.[/quote]Every year many parents try to get their gal to NYPS or transfer to NYPS from another primary school because of this affiliation scheme.
Not raised ...yet... :evil:Snow Crystal:
[quote=\"jtoh\"]
I thought the preferential COP for NYPS to NYGH is 250? Has it been raised?
No lah, it's still 250. Whylikethat888 is using my earlier example of 255 - I had mentioned that a NYPS girl in top class capable of scoring 255 and above (quite safe number) for PSLE usually may not even need to apply NYGH DSA... -
Kiasucy:
With this affiliation, girls from NYPS already has 12 point advantage over girls from other schools. This is already a huge advantage. It really takes a lot a lot more effort to get just one more point when near the top, let alone 12 points. Law of diminishing return. So, I think parents with DDs in NYPS, should already be contented to have this advantage. This is a meritocracy system. By giving this 12 points advantage, in my opinion, it creates imbalance in the system. Girls who really enter NYGH with 250 may end up suffering because of inability to compete. So, parents should really think hard if this is what they want their DDs to go through. My humble opinion. Pls don't throw fire at me.
Every year many parents try to get their gal to NYPS or transfer to NYPS from another primary school because of this affiliation scheme.
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Snow Crystal:
I believe both mainstreamers and geppers may face frustration and feel a sense of insecurity, although maybe in different areas.
Most welcome. We come here to care and share. Being a parent of mainstreamer kids, I fully understand most of the frustrations and insecurity they face. Jiayou to all mainstreamers!mamona:
Above is very encouraging statement for the mainstreamers. Thanks for such statement.
For the geppers, they are still trying to complete their SS portfoilio submission and FPS project. In August, they will have to sit for SS exams and they must pass it. I just feel that they are not really \"preparing\" for PSLE yet .
So parents of mainstreamers and geppers, don't worry too much as our kids are in the same boat. What the children need are our support and encouragement.
Good luck to all the P6's! -
Snow Crystal:
The non-transferable DSA rule has been tightened. No one will apply DSA to a school if they have no intention of choosing the school now. A GEP NYPS girl apply for both NYHS and RGS is common as she need another option mah what if she get rejected from NYHS due to some misinterpretation during her DSA interview. Likewise for those applying RI and HCI. All schools want to attract top top students with their special programme, so it is wrong for the school to make any guessing and not to offer the DSA to a students just because he/she has also applied for the other one.
Maybe it's due to the earlier batches of non GEP NYPS students 'ditching' the NYGH COs by accepting RGS or NUSH COs eventually. This is called 'once bitten, twice shy' - NYGH must have quite a number of rejected COs from this group of children who have multiple COs. Thus, before parents blame NYGH for not giving NYPS face or value them, please investigate past history if this was the case. Well, the sec schools have to wise up too... They also don't like to be taken for a ride. Eg another IP NJC also rejects many GEPs and high performing mainstreamers as they must have experienced high rejection rate previously from these groups for their COs. From the sch's angle, COs are precious and they would rather give to those with lower chance of multiple COs or who have really demonstrated commitment to accept CO if offered probably during interview. There is no point organizing such an elaborate DSA and then face rejection of their very precious COs. Also, most importantly NYGH is an affiliated sec sch of NYPS, so NYPS girls need only 250 (including HCL bonus point) to enter via PSLE S1. Thus if NYGH ascertain that the girls are of 250+ calibre, why give to them CO, might as well give to other school girls who may not meet 262 high S1 COP but with talents that NYGH wants. I guess if the parents think from a broader big picture and from their sister school NYGH's angle, it should not be difficult to understand NYGH's perceived 'reluctance' to give NYPS mainstreamers COs. In fact, a NYPS girl in a top class capable of achieving say 255++ and above PSLE score should not need to apply to NYGH DSA...perhaps to us outsiders that is the puzzling part Also, as an outsider, it's also surprising to hear affiliated pri Sch thinking this way of their affiliated sec Sch. Wouldn't most like to continue to NYGH due to sense of affinity and belonging? All the best to the PSLE! -
Otah:
RGS has not have such affiliation scheme for their old girls even their DSA are given to those achieve good results for GEP or sport talented students and the rest enter via PSLE merit. To ensure the high ability students they accept are the top top ones, may be NYGH also going along this line. Not to forget the final competition at the two end schools is a always 'A' level results mah.[/quote]RGS does not have any affiliated primary school. A lot of people mistakenly assume that RGPS is affiliated to RGS. It is not.
Not raised ...yet... :evil:Snow Crystal:
[quote=\"jtoh\"]
I thought the preferential COP for NYPS to NYGH is 250? Has it been raised?
No lah, it's still 250. Whylikethat888 is using my earlier example of 255 - I had mentioned that a NYPS girl in top class capable of scoring 255 and above (quite safe number) for PSLE usually may not even need to apply NYGH DSA...
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