DSA 2012
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Whylikethat888:
I didn't quote ur whole post but I only showed d relevant points in ur post dat I responding to.
No one is saying that the NYPS girls do not appreciate the lower COP but the fact remains - WHY does everyone try to DSA in the first place...this includes the GEPers ? It is for a peace of mind. .......
My point was never about the COP. It was about DSA.
Perhaps, it would help if you put yourself in these NYPS Tweens' position.
They ask why so and so, no matter how outstanding/ talented at NYPS was rejected by NYGH. They know that quite a few who were rejected by NYGH during the DSA phase ( some via CCa and some via academics) subsequently performed very well at PSLE but because they were hurt and disappointed, they automatically moved to RGS/ NUSH to prove their point. The feeling that they are disadvantaged at DSA, ironically, encourages them to try DSA into other schools in the first place. It's a double whammy.
Everyone knows that anything can happen on exam day and marks can be volatile even for the top 10-20% of the cohort.
They KNOW that they are disadvantaged when it's comes to direct admission into their own sister school, NYGH. They talk about it all the time ! They also know that rival schools such as RGS would be quite happy to take them if it could. The psychological impact of feeling disadvantaged at DSA by their sister school is under estimated. Perhaps, the answer is balance. The need to balance what is good for NYGH in terms of medals and what is good for the overall Nanyang spirit.
Hard to believe NYPS P6s were discouraged to DSA for NYGH coz as recently as in a school talk n roadshow before d June holidays, NYGH was present n NYPS staff did not specifically discourage those present not to try for NYGH.
Seems to me NYGH wld be out of their minds to reject students fr its affiliated primary school thro’ DSA exercise IF they qualify n will be an asset to d school.
How r NYPS P6s disadvantaged in DSA for NYGH? :skeptical:
I gathered fr ur 5 posts dat u r not pleased dat NYPS P6s r not given priority over other students during DSA.
Is dat ur main point of contention? -
jtoh:
So did your fren daughter got any offer to go for audition??
So did your friend's dd get into SCGS through DSA?friendship:
My friend's daughter DSA thru ballet to SCGS via ballet instructor. The ballet school is in Bedok CC. So many students there basically eyeing on DSA.
Before taking up any sports, screen off the coach whether she/he has any connection with any schools. The chances are higher thru coach's recommendations. -
I didn't quote ur whole post but I only showed d relevant points in ur post dat I responding to.
Hard to believe NYPS P6s were discouraged to DSA for NYGH coz as recently as in a school talk n roadshow before d June holidays, NYGH was present n NYPS staff did not specifically discourage those present not to try for NYGH.
Seems to me NYGH wld be out of their minds to reject students fr its affiliated primary school thro’ DSA exercise IF they qualify n will be an asset to d school.
How r NYPS P6s disadvantaged in DSA for NYGH? :skeptical:
I gathered fr ur 5 posts dat u r not pleased dat NYPS P6s r not given priority over other students during DSA.
Is dat ur main point of contention?[/quote]
Dear Waytogo,
My reply to your question is not really. From what we heard and know of last year, quite a few were not offered CO because these places were deemed to be better reserved for students from other schools ( varied talents but academically not as strong) and because the NYPS students were expected to get in via the COP. To some extent, this has its own rationale but because of this, many did not even bother to try DSA into their own sister school this year or they tried to DSA into even more schools aside from NYGH & RGS. For exmaple, there seemed to be an increased number of applicants to 2 top girls' missionary school recently. Just have to look at how many NYPS students sat for their other tests, aside from GAT. -
friendship:
sound familier :evil: , some one told me before... quite true ... its help in some way.. but still depend on kid also.My friend's daughter DSA thru ballet to SCGS via ballet instructor. The ballet school is in Bedok CC. So many students there basically eyeing on DSA.
Before taking up any sports, screen off the coach whether she/he has any connection with any schools. The chances are higher thru coach's recommendations. -
Whylikethat888:
I didn't quote ur whole post but I only showed d relevant points in ur post dat I responding to.
Hard to believe NYPS P6s were discouraged to DSA for NYGH coz as recently as in a school talk n roadshow before d June holidays, NYGH was present n NYPS staff did not specifically discourage those present not to try for NYGH.
Seems to me NYGH wld be out of their minds to reject students fr its affiliated primary school thro’ DSA exercise IF they qualify n will be an asset to d school.
How r NYPS P6s disadvantaged in DSA for NYGH? :skeptical:
I gathered fr ur 5 posts dat u r not pleased dat NYPS P6s r not given priority over other students during DSA.
Is dat ur main point of contention?
Dear Waytogo,
My reply to your question is not really. From what we heard and know of last year, quite a few were not offered CO because these places were deemed to be better reserved for students from other schools ( varied talents but academically not as strong) and because the NYPS students were expected to get in via the COP. To some extent, this has its own rationale but because of this, many did not even bother to try DSA into their own sister school this year or they tried to DSA into even more schools aside from NYGH & RGS. For exmaple, there seemed to be an increased number of applicants to 2 top girls' missionary school recently. Just have to look at how many NYPS students sat for their other tests, aside from GAT.[/quote]
Just curious, are the NYPS girls discouraged explicitly from applying DSA to NYGH?
Specifically for last year, did most of them apply thro' academic domain or cca? -
cluelessmama:
I wouldn't know if it was done in any specific class,
Just curious, are the NYPS girls discouraged explicitly from applying DSA to NYGH?
Specifically for last year, did most of them apply thro' academic domain or cca?
but definitely not explicitly nor implicitly discouraged in recent talk n roadshow opened to parents n students. -
Whylikethat888:
Abt last yr, were these ‘academically not as strong’ students fr other schools having ‘talents’ dat were sought by NYGH,
My reply to your question is not really. From what we heard and know of last year, quite a few were not offered CO because these places were deemed to be better reserved for students from other schools ( varied talents but academically not as strong) and because the NYPS students were expected to get in via the COP. To some extent, this has its own rationale but because of this, many did not even bother to try DSA into their own sister school this year or they tried to DSA into even more schools aside from NYGH & RGS. For exmaple, there seemed to be an increased number of applicants to 2 top girls' missionary school recently. Just have to look at how many NYPS students sat for their other tests, aside from GAT.
n they were better in their respective ‘talents’ in dat domain than those fr NYPS who applied thro’ DSA?
If d answers r yes, then NYGH is being fair n proper in getting d best candidates for limited slots.
D given reason dat those students were peeved by DSA rejection when they didn’t make d cut,
n turned to other schools to ‘prove a point’ doesn’t resonate with ur reason dat they wanted to
stay in d Nanyang family for d love of d school n to maintain Nanyang spirit.
If they truly feel belonged n love d school, they can still opt for NYGH during S1 posting
where NYPS girls do enjoy a fairly large discount on COP dat many non-NYPS students wld ‘die’ for.
If wat u claimed is true, it’s unequitable treatment to those NYPS girls –
n shd be brought to d attention of d school management if they can be substantiated.
Conversely, if it cannot be substantiated, IMV those disgruntled ppl r just asking for better,
but unfair treatment (to other students) in NYGH DSA selection.
Frankly, dis type of 'unsubstantiated rumour' is not gud for d Nanyang spirit. -
Abt last yr, were these ‘academically not as strong’ students fr other schools having ‘talents’ dat were sought by NYGH,
n they were better in their respective ‘talents’ in dat domain than those fr NYPS who applied thro’ DSA?
If d answers r yes, then NYGH is being fair n proper in getting d best candidates for limited slots.
D given reason dat those students were peeved by DSA rejection when they didn’t make d cut,
n turned to other schools to ‘prove a point’ doesn’t resonate with ur reason dat they wanted to
stay in d Nanyang family for d love of d school n to maintain Nanyang spirit.
If they truly feel belonged n love d school, they can still opt for NYGH during S1 posting
where NYPS girls do enjoy a fairly large discount on COP dat many non-NYPS students wld ‘die’ for.
If wat u claimed is true, it’s unequitable treatment to those NYPS girls –
n shd be brought to d attention of d school management if they can be substantiated.
Conversely, if it cannot be substantiated, IMV those disgruntled ppl r just asking for better,
but unfair treatment (to other students) in NYGH DSA selection.
Frankly, dis type of ‘unsubstantiated rumour’ is not gud for d Nanyang spirit.[/quote]
Much of the talk started at the start of this year, mainly because a number of 2011 ‘outstanding’ NYPS students were rejected by NYGH at the DSA stage despite appealing but ended up going to 2-3 TOP TIER ‘rival’ schools either through DSA or higher PSLE score. Thus, as expected people talked about this. Some may argue if these girls were outstanding in the first place, the fact that they were welcomed by NYGH’s top rival schools would seem to support that they were.
The 2011 COs for NYPS girls was believed to markedly less compared to previous years. However, this last point, is hearsay. -
Whylikethat888:
if they were rejected at DSA and accepted other DSA offers, as is now well known -- MOE barred the appeal and transfer wef 2011 DSA - even if NYGH wanted to take in at the appeal stage with good result - there is no way for that to happen. There must be reason why they were not granted DSA offers last year at the DSA stage by NYGH
Much of the talk started at the start of this year, mainly because a number of 2011 'outstanding' NYPS students were rejected by NYGH at the DSA stage despite appealing but ended up going to the top 2-3 tier 'rival' schools either through DSA or higher PSLE score. Thus, as expected people talked about this. Some may argue if these girls were outstanding in the first place, the fact that they were welcomed by NYGH's top rival schools would seem to support that they were.
The 2011 COs for NYPS girls was believed to markedly less compared to previous years. However, this last point, is hearsay. -
Ya, my friend’s dd is now in SCGS and still dancing for the school. Basically sounds like it is a mandatory that she has to take part in every performance locally and overseas. It is somehow ‘owing’ a favour to this ballet instructor.
Personally, I rather use academic to enter into DSA rather than ‘owing a favour to a coach’.
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