Post GE 2011 Discussion

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verykiasu2010:

Busymom:

[quote=\"concern2\"]Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan gives up his salary until the nuclear crisis in the country is over:


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/10/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1

Maybe some opposition MPs should have called for WKS to give up his salary during the time when Mas Selamat was missing... but no one did :laugh:

the problem is we don't eat sashimi or bento or sushi day in day out[/quote]Ya loh, must be creative in coming up with alternatives instead of asking for heads to roll. :idea:

[Busymom]

concern2:

Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong..

I am talking about grassroot MPs, not the ministers. The other non-minister MPs can hold regular day job in addition to being a MP.

[limlim]

raysusan:

Open letter to Mr. Lee Hsien Loong

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/open_letter_to_pm/

The author seems to got it all wrong..

What he/she suggest, althou is good for SG, will never be implemented or accepted.. I believe..

For those who is interested, can read some of the online discussions.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3232852

It should be quite insightful..

[concern2]

Culture shock is usually experienced when one moves to another country (a different place), or as in the case of reverse culture shock, when one comes home and faces new challenges. Yet in Singapore, we aren’t moving anywhere, still in Singapore, but our culture is changing in an indescribable manner. So what kind of culture shock can this be called?


Only those living in towers do not feel it, and think nothing of it. They are shielded from it all.

[Busymom]

3Boys:

Funz:

[quote=\"ChiefKiasu\"]Funz, thank you for your contributions so far. You are telling the other side of the story, the reason why Singaporean employers need to hire foreign workers to run their operations. This is something that often gets lost in the debate against FTs. And it IS different coming from a real employer like yourself, than from the government trying to explain its policies.

Thank you Chief.

I find it scary that people only see one side of things. When in actual fact, it is multi faceted and any change to a single aspect affects the rest.

This thing about foreign workers is one of those. People only see competition from them but in truth, yes they may compete on some level but on many levels they compliment. And it is naive the demand that we only want the part that compliments but don't want the competition.

People cheered when WP won Aljunied GRC, the fact that GY will be gone if he lost was talked about from the beginning but people consoled themselves that it's ok, he will be ok. And when it really happened, petition to reinstate him? And when the Govt does not, talks about conspiracy to oust GY surfaces, etc. OK don't shoot me, I have nothing against the outcome of this election. I am just using this to illustrate that the result does not end with just WP winning and getting an alternative voice with all good things still remaining status quo. Oft times, there is a price to be paid we must then look really hard and ask ourselves if we are prepared to pay that price.

Ok said too much oredi. Gonna zip up before I step some bombs.

I completely agree with you. Thanks for clearing the landmines [/quote]I want to say thank you too... it is very tiring.

[concern2]

Busymom:

concern2:

Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong..

I am talking about grassroot MPs, not the ministers. The other non-minister MPs can hold regular day job in addition to being a MP.

So if they are paid to do the job, wouldn't it be their responsibility to be there most of the time?

[concern2]

concern2:

Busymom:

[quote=\"concern2\"]

Yet, they are holding 2 salaries right? One for being MP (member of parliament) and one for holding Ministerial job. Correct me if I am wrong..

I am talking about grassroot MPs, not the ministers. The other non-minister MPs can hold regular day job in addition to being a MP.

So if they are paid to do the job, wouldn't it be their responsibility to be there most of the time?[/quote]Busymom, ok, ok, I get it...you were referring to those who happen to be at the MTPS when the MP is not around..

[Busymom]

Oppsgal:

verykiasu2010:

if remember correctly, they wanted to operate the berths on their own, take over a number of quay from PSA, and nego on rental but PSA did not want to back down....and JB PTP came with a good offer and off they went. Ended up with lots of retrenchment in singapore, not only port workers, but also all the related supporting industries who used to support Maersk - all lost biz and close shop...... quite many thousand in total lost job, a few times the number of directly affected port workers. gov't had to step in


lesson learnt : don't be penny wise, pound foolish....same for airline industry, that is why MM said die die must make sure SIA is able to compete and cannot let the union politicise everything and strike....that will kill the industry

same for the foreign worker issue now. talk is cheap. close down lor to spite the foreigners ? end up singaporean also no job

just like when we invest in China, we put a few hundred million US$ and we put our singapore managers to jaga the operation -- not that the locals can't do - but the singapore managers take care of my vested interest, not the locals. if they don't agree, we close shop, they get no jobs, we go else where

But currently how many Singaporeans are jobless too :?

Our unemployment rate is very low now, can't remember the exact figure but it is 1+%.

[limlim]

Funz:

People cheered when WP won Aljunied GRC, the fact that GY will be gone if he lost was talked about from the beginning but people consoled themselves that it's ok, he will be ok.

Why GY is in Aljunied and not EC whereas LSS moves to EC?

Why TPL in MP and not AMK?

I do not believe that the MIW doesn't know WP is targeting Aljunied.. they already started working the grounds long before the elections.

And.. MIW is well known to plan far.. nothing really can \"caught them by surprise\"..

[Busymom]

concern2:

concern2:

[quote=\"Busymom\"]I am talking about grassroot MPs, not the ministers. The other non-minister MPs can hold regular day job in addition to being a MP.

So if they are paid to do the job, wouldn't it be their responsibility to be there most of the time?

Busymom, ok, ok, I get it...you were referring to those who happen to be at the MTPS when the MP is not around.. [/quote]Yes, dearie...