DSA Appeal 2011
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I know a school Principal whose DS could make the RI cut off. He went instead to a no name JC who gave him SO MANY opportunities to shine that he went on to get an EDB scholarship and is now in Harvard. I was shocked at her unconventional decision. The Principal explained that her son might get lost in RI amongst all the smarties as smart as him or smarter… and she made a decision to put him in No Name JC instead.
This was the decision of someone who knows the system from inside.
A place in Harvard is almost impossible to get. Only TWO Singaporeans every year get picked. So hey… RI is not the end of the road… and it isn’t even the best means to get to the end of the road depending on where your end happens to be. Harvard doesn’t give 2 hoots that you’re from RI. They get valedictorians from top US institutions applying. They dunno the various rankings of our JCs, and they dun care. They wanna see what your child has done. For that, your child needs the opportunities that they’re more likely to get when they stand out amongst the crowd.[/quote]
Exactly BUT in reality Harvard does know RI as the feeder school from Singapore. Putting a bright kid in a no name JC does open up opportunities that otherwise may not be available. -
indeed what the P did to his DS was a strategic move that open doors of opportunity , very smart move….. admirable :rahrah: heard also a VP whose DS was in TKS and got to no-name JC in Tampines…. so many opportunities to excel in that no-name JC that his DS got scholarship given my MOE to Yale…. another case of a insider that knows the system well…... :grphug:
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Dr.K:
They should receive enough applications to know the name RI, yes. But whether they KNOW know in the way Singaporeans know... whether they have the same starry eyed gaze when the name RI is mentioned... whether they have the same emotional attraction to RI that born and bred Singaporeans have... is another issue.
Exactly BUT in reality Harvard does know RI as the feeder school from Singapore. Putting a bright kid in a no name JC does open up opportunities that otherwise may not be available.
Judging from the various incidences where schools like Stanford, Yale and Harvard pick non-RI over RI students, I don't think these places KNOW what the name RI really means, in the way Singaporeans know it to mean. Since they dunno, they have no bias and really will be looking at what your child has done. Of course, the Ivy Leagues do pick students from RI, but really the very top who got all the yummy opportunities RI had to give out. -
Dr.K:
Let me correct an untruth here.
MY Ds told me his friend chose ACS(I) through DSA.He got in but now regrets.Only when he went for the registration that he was told that there will be Bible studies half an hour every day. The fact is this kid is not a Christian and he detests it-frantically searching for another school to take him in. In this scenario-it was an honest mistake to accept CO and I think he has every right to appeal to another school on religious grounds.His fundamental rights on freedom of religion had been infringed because the school did not reveal that compulsory bible studies was part of the program. So I do agree in this situation that an appeal to transfer to another school should be granted by all means as provided for in the childs basic constitutional right.I also do understand non-Christians with very low T-scores (206)are accepted in to ACSI and some Christians with higher scores are rejected.Its obvious even to the dumb what the agenda is! So the crap of casting the first stone is just rubbish, rhetoric of the stone age to hide dubious motives.If those who have similar issues as the above Kid has a valid reason and it should be supported but not otherwise. I volunteer my services FOC on grounds of technicality as provided for in the constitution in this scenario. I am certain MOE hates seeing my face and would sort it out before I appear before them.Ha!Ha! :rotflmao:
Bible studies are not part of the curriculum. There is devotion time every morning, where the principal reads some announcements during assembly and quotes a passage from the bible. Hardly bible study if you ask me. A short prayer will be said, hardly lasting a minute. Non-christians can choose not to close their eyes and let their minds wander.
Let's not go too far and talk about infringing on one's constitutional right. There are many non-christians in mission schools so not being comfortable and detesting (too strong a word in my opinion) may not be a valid reason here. -
I fully agree that Sometime it may be good being a big fish in a small pond. There are so many cases that I have came across. One girl who has aggregate score of 27x went to the top girl and she lost motivation among all the smarties. She told her mum that there are already enough bright sparks in the school so she does not need to be one. She just drift along. Not saying she is doing badly but the motivation to do bettter is gone!
My son’s classmate who transferred from a top tier school to his current school consistently top in the cohort and receives scholarship every year. Spoke to his mum about the decision she made for her son, she cited the exact same reason as the school principle aboved. The son is much happier, less stressful and full of confidence. Hence, it might not be a total loss of not getting into a top tier school. -
Places like Harvard, Stanford and Yale are not used to a system where all the top brains are put together and taught together. This is because the USA is so big that geographic distances prevent this from happening. This means that for such schools, top talent is class valedictorian + a portfolio of interesting activities. It is far easier to become class valedictorian in a non-RI school… and it is far easier to collate and interesting portfolio in a non-RI school.
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Dr.K:
I don't think the words \"Bible Studies\" were used. The more commonly used word would be \"chapel\", some kind of morning assembly. More often, short moral lessons are taught in chapel and these are hardly pushy. Some christians may even describe such chapel sessions as \"shallow\" because little depth is covered.
MY Ds told me his friend chose ACS(I) through DSA.He got in but now regrets.Only when he went for the registration that he was told that there will be Bible studies half an hour every day. The fact is this kid is not a Christian and he detests it-frantically searching for another school to take him in. In this scenario-it was an honest mistake to accept CO and I think he has every right to appeal to another school on religious grounds.His fundamental rights on freedom of religion had been infringed because the school did not reveal that compulsory bible studies was part of the program. So I do agree in this situation that an appeal to transfer to another school should be granted by all means as provided for in the childs basic constitutional right.I also do understand non-Christians with very low T-scores (206)are accepted in to ACSI and some Christians with higher scores are rejected.Its obvious even to the dumb what the agenda is! So the crap of casting the first stone is just rubbish, rhetoric of the stone age to hide dubious motives.If those who have similar issues as the above Kid has a valid reason and it should be supported but not otherwise. I volunteer my services FOC on grounds of technicality as provided for in the constitution in this scenario. I am certain MOE hates seeing my face and would sort it out before I appear before them.Ha!Ha! :rotflmao:
One would know that all missions schools have some form of chapel in their curriculum. I don't think this boy chose ACSI blindly, not knowing that it is a missions school.
The agenda of choosing a low tscore 206 non-christian over a high tscore christian sounds somewhat absurd. Don't think there is a religion field in the S1 posting system. For all we know, the 206 may be an affiliated boy.
First time heard of appeal based on religious grounds. Was that an excuse given to appeal accepted DSA CO? :? -
Dr.K:
I also do understand non-Christians with very low T-scores (206)are accepted in to ACSI and some Christians with higher scores are rejected.Its obvious even to the dumb what the agenda is! So the crap of casting the first stone is just rubbish, rhetoric of the stone age to hide dubious motives.
l'm dumb what's the agenda or what is your agenda for writing this? -
looking4Tutor:
Thanks for the clarification
RI rejects DSA applicants on the ground that they didn't perform well from Primary 4 - 6 SA1 and the GAT test.mum_sugoku:
Assuming those PSLE-high-scorers who are appealing to RI now (after accepting CO from another school) had also applied for RI's DSA but were rejected by RI, then shouldn't it be RI's fault for rejecting them in the first place?
But somehow some will still want to mug their way in.
Anyway I agree with the numerous excellent posters here that many non-RI schools are just as good. If one truely has the flair and determination to excel, he will - regardless of whether he's in RI or not. -
My ds’s friend from gep with t score 252+2, rejected by ri and hci during dsa stage, posted to acsi through s1, appealed and gained admission to hci.
All schools, not only top tier schools, will have a spread of bright and not so bright students, so there will be those who get scholarship, fun things to do while others merely exist.
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