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    JC or Poly?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
      last edited by

      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2105743\" time=\"1681691853\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2105743 time=1681691853 user_id=58173]
      https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/polytechnic-education-journey-decisions-o-levels-jc-3412696?fbclid=IwAR2quj0EKgyvDb6H-Dqh2Ck98h1k_1bgc5QJJv2tlo-jD2MCYr-Ghhjnzfg&mibextid=l066kq

      Commentary: I gave up JC to go to poly and never looked back

      Every mid-April when polytechnic students begin the new academic year, CNA’s Grace Yeoh is reminded of the decision that altered her education path - and how going against the grain at a young age set her up for life.[/quote]
      If by the time reach aged 16,
      after your O level,
      if u already know what u want to be in life,
      eg. Journalist
      in this case, or Pilot,

      then Yes,

      go ... Poly

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      • phtthpP Offline
        phtthp
        last edited by

        Answer, to the title of this thread

        ===========================

        1)

        for those,
        who by the time they reach the age of 16 years old, ALREADY know for certain what kind of specific career they want for their life,

        Example

        If they are keen to study Artificial Intelligence (AI)

        Or be
        a Journalist,
        a Commercial pilot,
        an Airforce pilot,

        a Child care school Teacher,
        a nurse

        Or

        Open up an Optical Spectacles / glasses shop to run a business, be your own boss, or

        be an Animal Vet,
        then,

        go to … Poly.
        Don’t waste time, studying in a two-years Junior College.

        Example
        =======

        If you want to be a Nurse,
        then

        go to . . Nanyang Polytechnic (NYP), undergo the training there, to be a nurse.

        Important note
        =============

        However,
        make sure that u do this, only if u are not afraid at the sight of blood.
        Don’t halfway through, after enrolment into NYP for a few months, then later go and complain to the Dean of Nursing school that, u faint at the sight of blood,
        Or u vomit, at the sight of blood,
        Or that
        u have a phobia of injection,
        hence
        wish to withdraw from the Nursing program. Then, u are wasting NYP precious time & money !

        I mean,
        before u even take up a pen & start to fill up the Application Form, to apply for a Nursing programme, surely u ought to know or u already know deep inside u :-
        whether

        u can or u cannot stand, the sight of (blood or injection) everyday working in a hospital, dealing with several patients, daily. For every patient that need to do blood test upon, as a nurse, u have to find the right vein on the patient’s arm or buttock, to poke the injection needle into, to draw blood & bring the blood sample to the laboratory, for further testing. So, definitely patients’ blood is something that u come into contact often, daily !


        2)

        But,
        if by the time u reach the end of Sec 4 (aged 16), & still don’t know what to do with your life,
        then

        go to … Junior College.

        Remain inside a JC for 2 more years.
        Meanwhile, during this last chance of being given two extra years of extended (prolonged) time, wondering what to do with your life -

        do find the time
        to talk to working adults,
        from different industry sectors.
        Yes, correct,
        talk to as many people as u possibly can, from various walks of life / profession,
        so as to
        check out & confirm for yourself where exactly your talents, interests & passion truly lie in,
        before
        choose & final enrolment into the right / correct faculty course to study, in a university. Don’t end up, study the WRONG course for next 3 or 4 years, wasting time

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        • bbbayB Offline
          bbbay
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          I have people around me that went from ITE to diploma or degree from local U. There are many unemployed U graduates around the world. In spore, ITE graduates are all having decent jobs and living standards.

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          • Liew Nga WingL Offline
            Liew Nga Wing
            last edited by

            bbbay\" post_id=\"2110658\" time=\"1686458440\" user_id=\"175278:

            I have people around me that went from ITE to diploma or degree from local U. There are many unemployed U graduates around the world. In spore, ITE graduates are all having decent jobs and living standards.
            As a staff from the Government essential service sector, I am fully agree with you.

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            • blackyvB Offline
              blackyv
              last edited by

              hi ,

              just to get an opinion, my son have plan to go Poly and also wanted to sign-on. He has interest in aerospace, wish to join airforce. But many of my friend said with just a diploma and sign-on, cannot move up much. As some already pointed out, with a degree , the pay is so much higher compare to a diploma holder.
              his Recent prelim is 13, not fantastic but can go JC i think if he maintain his result which my SIL/BIL advice him to go JC route. what would be a sensible advice? im not sure should i try to convince him to go JC route or let him stay with Poly route which he has in mind since last year.

              if he sign-on with just a diploma, any chance for him to get degree and move up?

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              • zac's mumZ Offline
                zac's mum
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                blackyv\" post_id=\"2120483\" time=\"1696997864\" user_id=\"56432:

                hi ,
                just to get an opinion, my son have plan to go Poly and also wanted to sign-on. He has interest in aerospace, wish to join airforce. But many of my friend said with just a diploma and sign-on, cannot move up much. As some already pointed out, with a degree , the pay is so much higher compare to a diploma holder.
                his Recent prelim is 13, not fantastic but can go JC i think if he maintain his result which my SIL/BIL advice him to go JC route. what would be a sensible advice? im not sure should i try to convince him to go JC route or let him stay with Poly route which he has in mind since last year.

                if he sign-on with just a diploma, any chance for him to get degree and move up?
                Those friends i know in RSAF have Engineering degrees. They do provide sponsorships & scholarships, but results must be excellent. I dunno if it’s feasible to upgrade later.

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                • blackyvB Offline
                  blackyv
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                  zac's mum\" post_id=\"2120487\" time=\"1696998796\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2120487 time=1696998796 user_id=53606]
                  Those friends i know in RSAF have Engineering degrees. They do provide sponsorships & scholarships, but results must be excellent. I dunno if it’s feasible to upgrade later.[/quote]
                  yeah, heard got scholarship but result and EQ must be good hor...

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                  • lee_ylL Offline
                    lee_yl
                    last edited by

                    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/junior-college-or-polytechnic-how-to-guide-your-child-to-pick-the-right-path


                    There was a ST article a few days ago on whether to pick JC or Poly.

                    It was reported that for 2023 cohort, 43% of the Poly students were actually eligible to pick JC

                    However, about one in three fresh polytechnic graduates (33%) goes on to university, while around four in five A-level graduates (80%) do so.

                    I am not sure how best to interpret these statistics. I have this impression that instead of going to a lower tier JC, one may have a higher chance to enter Uni via the Poly route. But the numbers don’t seem to tell me so now because out of the 43% (who were eligible for JC but picked Poly instead), only 33% of the Poly students managed to move on to Uni.
                    This 33% should also include a good number of kids who didn’t do so well for O levels (not eligible for JCs) but did well in Poly to get into university.

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                    • MrsKiasuM Offline
                      MrsKiasu
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                      Recently I heard 3 cases from Poly to UK and Australia. That could be one of the reasons?

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                      • sharonkhooS Offline
                        sharonkhoo
                        last edited by

                        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2126666\" time=\"1704792021\" user_id=\"17023:

                        https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/junior-college-or-polytechnic-how-to-guide-your-child-to-pick-the-right-path

                        There was a ST article a few days ago on whether to pick JC or Poly.

                        It was reported that for 2023 cohort, 43% of the Poly students were actually eligible to pick JC

                        However, about one in three fresh polytechnic graduates (33%) goes on to university, while around four in five A-level graduates (80%) do so.

                        I am not sure how best to interpret these statistics. I have this impression that instead of going to a lower tier JC, one may have a higher chance to enter Uni via the Poly route. But the numbers don’t seem to tell me so now because out of the 43% (who were eligible for JC but picked Poly instead), only 33% of the Poly students managed to move on to Uni.
                        This 33% should also include a good number of kids who didn’t do so well for O levels (not eligible for JCs) but did well in Poly to get into university.
                        Possibly that a large proportion of the 43% eligible for JC were from the group that wouldn't have made it to university even if they were in JC? I think the main thing parents have to remember is that it is the student's ability that has a greater impact on whether he gets to university or not, not whether he was in a good JC, lower tier JC or poly. Some students may have peaked at O levels and qualified for JC but didn't do that well thereafter, while others didn't qualify for JC but continued to improve in poly.

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