Is GEP really necessary?

[corneyAmber]

osim:

friendship:

why don't we look at the END product? meaning what are these 500 GEPers lead their lives?

I know the recent one of the recipient for President Scholarship is a GEPer.

Does it matter how they lead their lives?

What's important is that they discover their calling, their interest and talents and are happy to contribute to society in their own special way.

Yes, we may say, the government invested in them but investment as it is may not always give you the returns you want. We must know, this kid's are not share you buy in the stock market. They are human, they have their aspirations which may not be those lofty ambition that many thought they ought to have.

Take for example, my dd get pass 90% in her exams. She is an all rounder but she wants to be a writer. She may not earn much if she does that unless she becomes next JK Rowling but it's her life...as long she is happy and living in coherence with what she think is good for her

This is what people cannot understand and it has been explained...it seems that people are so caught up in being top that everything is only measured by TOP. If TOP-less, then no GEP calibre.

btw, congrats osim, 90%+ is great all-rounder for GEP, even for mainstream is great.

[vlim]

Ok ok ok ... About the qn about how can a std gep suit 500 gifted kids right ....... So I think huh back in abt 28 yrs ago when gep not started yet huh ... Maybe huh Someone in the gov said..,' I want to set up a gep to nurture our top 1% gifted kids and they must be alllllll rounder'....

Then B said ,' then how abt those half round?'.....
A said, ' then we set up a secondary school which specialize in Maths and Sci to take them in la... Those super pro one can take accelerated modules of the subject .......'........
B asked again, ' then how abt those find the gep still not challenging?'
A said, ' then bo bian lo, they got to out source lo .....'....
:siam:

[Melodies]

verykiasu2010:

Melodies:

Your figures do support the point of GEPpers are higher in demand and TOP IP schools recognize this. :yikes:


Below are just a very rough calculation:
Presumably, average Tscore for GEPpers is 255 and this is top 6% for the whole cohort. There are abt 50k in a cohort so there are abt 3K pupils who have 255 t-score and above. Say all GEPper are evenly distributed to all IS school together with the comparable mainstreamers who has scored 255 and above, hence each school will have= 500/3000 = 16.7% GEPper. The fact is we are seeing higher % of GEPper population than 16.7% in TOP IP schools. There are abt 300 GEPper scored 255tscore n this shd give about 10% of GEPpers population for each IS school if we assume all comparable (based on PSLE score) GEPpers are evenly distributed to all IS schools with their comparable mainstream peers.

The conclusion is GEPpers are higher in demand and TOP IP schools do recognize this and prefer GEPpers to mainstreamers.

Do take the above calculation with a pinch of salts since the data is from KSP forumers and have not been verified with MOE.

got to take it with a barrel of salt, not a pinch
hahaha..

what is the number 3000 ? Alamak! 6% of 50K cohort scored 255 lor, then 3000 lor
how many IP schools now ?
I thought there are 13 schools now

why is GEPpers in demand ? Some GEPper parents said that l.. isn't it the students choose the schools and not the school choose the students ? school can make DSA offers but if the students reject the CO what does it say ?
Students choose schools if you are bright student with stellar results! Schools also choose you wa. Aiya, they are mutually willing parties la Just like match-mate la

[Melodies]

Hi, tks for your patience to reiterate again, not that I didn't read that, I read that but no want can explain exactly why need to do this type of re-iteration to nth degree by having a standardized program for every GEPper. I'm not saying of having a few drafts but I'm saying why there is a standardized program with everything are the same. Are they trying to make every GEPper to be Leonardo da Vinci by using the precision way? :yikes:

ksi:

Melodies:

I don't see how 1 standardized and controlled GEP program can suit all 500 GEPpers as well? There should be one GEPper who is very good in Area A but the other who is very good in area 2. It can't be all are Leonardo da Vinci, right? No?

Sorry again Melodies, I believe this has been addressed before by some GEP parents here but not picked up. As I have said before, this is re-iteration to nth degree and no understanding seems to have been established so far.

[corneyAmber]

vlim:

Ok ok ok ... About the qn about how can a std gep suit 500 gifted kids right ....... So I think huh back in abt 28 yrs ago when gep not started yet huh ... Maybe huh Someone in the gov said..,' I want to set up a gep to nurture our top 1% gifted kids and they must be alllllll rounder'....

Then B said ,' then how abt those half round?'.....
A said, ' then we set up a secondary school which specialize in Maths and Sci to take them in la... Those super pro one can take accelerated modules of the subject .......'........
B asked again, ' then how abt those find the gep still not challenging?'
A said, ' then bo bian lo, they got to out source lo .....'....
:siam:

Hippo...I can roll over with you now.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but wait!!! got mud or not?

[vlim]

ksi:

vlim:

Ok ok ok ... About the qn about how can a std gep suit 500 gifted kids right ....... So I think huh back in abt 28 yrs ago when gep not started yet huh ... Maybe huh Someone in the gov said..,' I want to set up a gep to nurture our top 1% gifted kids and they must be alllllll rounder'....

Then B said ,' then how abt those half round?'.....
A said, ' then we set up a secondary school which specialize in Maths and Sci to take them in la... Those super pro one can take accelerated modules of the subject .......'........
B asked again, ' then how abt those find the gep still not challenging?'
A said, ' then bo bian lo, they got to out source lo .....'....
:siam:

Hippo...I can roll over with you now.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but wait!!! got mud or not?

time for a kit kat ... :lightrod: :rotflmao:

[corneyAmber]

Melodies:

Hi, tks for your patience to reiterate again, not that I didn't read that, I read that but no want can explain exactly why need to do this type of re-iteration to nth degree by having a standardized program for every GEPper. I'm saying of having a few drafts but I'm saying why there is a standardized program with everything are the same. Are they trying to make every GEPper to be Leonardo da Vinci by using the precision way? :yikes:

I see vlim has offered another approach to explain this, (n+1)th time. Check it out.

[Sun_2010]

vlim:

ksi:

[quote=\"vlim\"]Ok ok ok ... About the qn about how can a std gep suit 500 gifted kids right ....... So I think huh back in abt 28 yrs ago when gep not started yet huh ... Maybe huh Someone in the gov said..,' I want to set up a gep to nurture our top 1% gifted kids and they must be alllllll rounder'....

Then B said ,' then how abt those half round?'.....
A said, ' then we set up a secondary school which specialize in Maths and Sci to take them in la... Those super pro one can take accelerated modules of the subject .......'........
B asked again, ' then how abt those find the gep still not challenging?'
A said, ' then bo bian lo, they got to out source lo .....'....
:siam:

Hippo...I can roll over with you now.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: but wait!!! got mud or not?

time for a kit kat ... :lightrod: :rotflmao:[/quote]Right! There goes my resolution of no snacking at night

At least that is better than this discussion - which is like the bubble gum that has been over chewed.

[Melodies]

O, I see that n I also thought that shd be the reason. this must be one of his pet suggestion. As usual, it will not be wrong lor and it will always be right! :evil: ahemm 我们心照不宣。

ksi:

Melodies:

Hi, tks for your patience to reiterate again, not that I didn't read that, I read that but no want can explain exactly why need to do this type of re-iteration to nth degree by having a standardized program for every GEPper. I'm not saying of having a few drafts but I'm saying why there is a standardized program with everything are the same. Are they trying to make every GEPper to be Leonardo da Vinci by using the precision way? :yikes:

I see vlim has offered another approach to explain this, (n+1)th time. Check it out.

[Nebbermind]

Wah! So many pgs of exchange…so what’s still the issue now? Gep die die must get > 260 for psle?