Comparing Math Enrichment Programmes

[san20sg]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2060804\" time=\"1646648746\" user_id=\"194652:

The teacher at Concept math takes 1.5 hours to go through 4 guided examples with the class?

Did you check your with son how did he find the Concept math tuition class? Was it taught in an engaging manner or did it simply consist of copying solutions off the white board?

No it was a set of 15 pages. 4 guided examples and 4 hwk sums, takes up about 8 pages. The rest are all Section A/B stuff. My boy doesn't need any help on Section A/B usually, he can score near full in this section.

All his issues are in problem sums; he can get 50% or even fail in Section C sighs

[Liew Nga Wing]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2060942\" time=\"1646745410\" user_id=\"76391:

I'm so stressed!! I'm not very good at math myself don't say teach!! Sighs!!

You don't stress yourself first. When you DS know that you are stress on his study, he may feel very sad and helpless. There are always solutions for a problem. 事情总有解决的办法. So have a good sleep first. Good night.

[Liew Nga Wing]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2060943\" time=\"1646745550\" user_id=\"76391:

No it was a set of 15 pages. 4 guided examples and 4 hwk sums, takes up about 8 pages. The rest are all Section A/B stuff. My boy doesn't need any help on Section A/B usually, he can score near full in this section.

All his issues are in problem sums; he can get 50% or even fail in Section C sighs

I have PM you as my colleague is willing to help and hope you can reply my message soon.

[san20sg]

Thanks Nga Wing!

[Zeal mummy]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2060942\" time=\"1646745410\" user_id=\"76391:

Yes I did. He is so bad at heuristics he cannot even do the P3 onsponge book. I am intending to complete the P3 onsponge book with him this March holiday (hopefully?)

I'm so stressed!! I'm not very good at math myself don't say teach!! Sighs!!

I hope the onsponge book that you bought him, is the “essential” one and not the “conquer” one?

[san20sg]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2061066\" time=\"1646821025\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2061066 time=1646821025 user_id=58173]
I hope the onsponge book that you bought him, is the “essential” one and not the “conquer” one?[/quote]

It is unfortunately the conquer one. I will be buying the essential one for P4 after that.

[Zeal mummy]

san20sg\" post_id=\"2061079\" time=\"1646833307\" user_id=\"76391:

It is unfortunately the conquer one. I will be buying the essential one for P4 after that.

The conquer one is rather challenging and at times, daunting. The essential one will be better to help boost his confidence. I feel that he can do it, since his lower primary math is good, he will need more motivation to gradually build up his skills.

[tinker_bell]

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2060816\" time=\"1646658969\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2060816 time=1646658969 user_id=195250]
I have PM you his hp number and the message is still in my outbox at present. Let me know once you get it.[/quote]

Received with thanks! Grateful for your help!

[tinker_bell]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2061066\" time=\"1646821025\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2061066 time=1646821025 user_id=58173]
I hope the onsponge book that you bought him, is the “essential” one and not the “conquer” one?[/quote]

Wouldn't the conquer thinking math @ onsponge books be better at helping the child internalize the heuristics techniques better? The essentials onsponge books are more to build up section A & B knowledge right?

http://www.nicklebeetutors.com/p/math-resources.html

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Review of the \"ThinkingMath @ Onsponge\" Series (Ammiel Wan, Chris Rogers & Corine Quek; 2008)
Recommended for the Mid-Ability Math Student looking for that extra edge in PSLE Maths!

Review updated by Mr Zhou (NickleBee Tutors) in Dec 2015

The Onsponge books are an excellent resource (if a bit dated) for mid-ability students who require a comprehensive and systematic grounding of the various conceptual and procedural knowledge required to ace Problem Sums in the Math Paper 2.

I personally feel that the some of the procedural knowledge (problem-solving methods) as taught in the Onsponge Books are quite cumbersome and rather lacking in fineness as they seem geared towards higher ability students who already have a working knowledge of problem solving and are just looking for a boost to fine tune the nuances of their problem solving capability.

For other students who are still in the process of improving their problem solving skills, the way the books are structured has an unfortunate and unintended side-effect (if not taught correctly) of encouraging rote learning and blind application of methods (based on how the child thinks the question should be categorized) without understanding that problem solving is a process where the means is very much as important as the ends.

Just a note that we longer use the Onsponge books for our P4 to P6 students since 2015. Instead our students now use our proprietary \"NickleBee Math Problem Solving and Heuristic Worksheets\".

I would recommend that parents and educators use the \"Visible Thinking in Maths Series by Ammiel Wan\" to improve on their child's basic mathematical concepts (as tested in Math Paper 1) after which they should then follow up on \"GetMeThinking\" or \"OnSponge\" to further enhance their child's intermediate and advanced problem solving skills (as usually tested in Math Paper 2).

The ThinkingMath @ Onsponge can be bought from the ThinkingMath Webstore at http://www.onsponge.com/shop/thinkingmathshop.html

[Zeal mummy]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061089\" time=\"1646839075\" user_id=\"194652:

Wouldn't the conquer thinking math @ onsponge books be better at helping the child internalize the heuristics techniques better? The essentials onsponge books are more to build up section A & B knowledge right?

nope.. the conquer one is rather challenging and at times, daunting. The essential one will be better to help boost his confidence (as he wasn’t doing well only recently) by building on his good foundation. It covers but doesn’t have as many challenging problem sums. Of course, there are other math books which are useful as well.