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    • B Offline
      buds
      last edited by

      Question is… if a man has strayed once,

      will he stray again. No matter how many
      apologies have been expressed… there
      will definitely be that possibility of the man
      straying again.

      Staying for the sake of the children can only
      take one a little further to sacrifice… but the
      trust… will it still be there when the sanctity
      of marriage is lost. There may and can still
      be some love left from the good days, but
      will the love still be the same… It will be
      easier to decide whether to leave or not to
      leave when children are not in the picture…
      But then again, once you leave will life
      necessarily be better or happier for that
      matter…

      A lot of factors to weigh upon and it also
      depends on the true feeling of oneself…
      Some think with their hearts while some just
      follow the rationality of the mind, just tabulating
      the pros and the cons. So it reali depends…

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        ponyo
        last edited by

        hi baby2momma,


        perhaps the question(s) to ask is whether the man is truly repentant -- not just plain lip service type \" I am sorry and let's move on...\" but the one who besides asking for fogiveness, takes concrete actions such as attending counselling sessions with wife, making efforts to earn back the trust of his loved ones again.

        If the man is not willing to invest his time /efforts to salvage the marriage but only willing to say sorry, then something is not right 😐 ie to me, he still has not learn his lesson and will likely drop his pants again when the next young thing comes along his way... JMHO

        cheers
        ponyo

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          buds
          last edited by

          How does one know if a man is truly repentant btw?


          I have friends whose husbands attend everything they
          have suggested to strengthen their marriages; just to keep
          their wives and their families and to save face… but on the
          sly, they still resume their activities nevertheless when the
          coast is clearer.

          Seriously… sorry is not enough.

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            baby2momma
            last edited by

            here i am trying very hard to console

            a very close relative to give the man
            another chance but there again;
            as what you guys have said, sorry
            is really easy to say and can/cannot
            be accepted by the woman but if the
            woman really accepts the man back,
            will he stray again? and who are we
            to then advise the one who gets hurt
            over & over again??? sigh....in one
            sense i don't want their family to
            break up but on the other hand, i felt
            the man is treating this incident
            very lightly.... :shock:

            why are man like that??? can't they
            commit to their marital vows??? 😞

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              ponyo
              last edited by

              From your description, the man does come across as just a passive participant. Cruising along, doing what is suggested etc to regain his face. This is not the repentance I meant.


              True repentance is not just sorrow prompted by the fear of punishment or a cold clinical acknowledgement of an obvious error. Instead repentance is a spiritually produced remorse and sorrow-of-heart at having done wrong in the first place. It goes beyond just saying sorry. The person needs to be broken in spirit.

              The parable of the prodigal son is a good example.

              Sorry to come across as preachy…

              Cheers
              ponyo

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                baby2momma
                last edited by

                buds:
                How does one know if a man is truly repentant btw?


                I have friends whose husbands attend everything they
                have suggested to strengthen their marriages; just to keep
                their wives and their families and to save face.... but on the
                sly, they still resume their activities nevertheless when the
                coast is clearer.

                Seriously... sorry is not enough.
                buds, you are right....\"How does one know if a man is truly repentant?\"

                that man used to take care of the family lots..... and he strayed off to
                a woman older than his wife !!! my relative could not take it.....
                still trying best to pacify her.....more like WE are trying our best to pacify her instead of the man....sigh.... and when tat man was trying to seek forgiveness from his wife, he wasn't very serious too..... :x

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                  Funz
                  last edited by

                  My believes, never actively step into another couple’s problems. You can be there to lend a shoulder or moral support and all but the decision to forgive and work it out or not has to be made by the wife herself. And whatever her decision, just be there to support her when need be.


                  We cannot presume to know what is best for the couple, only they know for themselves.

                  The only time that I ever step in to actively tell someone to leave the guy was when the guy was abusive.

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                    corneyAmber
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                    Funz:
                    My believes, never actively step into another couple's problems. You can be there to lend a shoulder or moral support and all but the decision to forgive and work it out or not has to be made by the wife herself. And whatever her decision, just be there to support her when need be.


                    We cannot presume to know what is best for the couple, only they know for themselves.

                    The only time that I ever step in to actively tell someone to leave the guy was when the guy was abusive.
                    I take the same stand unless my friend actively seeks my advice, I prefer to listen and be supportive only. Even then, I would only say from my personal considerations, so my friend still has to build in her/his own personal considerations.

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                      Andaiz
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                      ks2me:

                      I think for men hor...don't talk Venus to them, talk SUMS to them....then they will pull out the CALCULATOR to count count first before they make that crucial step.... :lol: :lol:
                      ks2me, well said...but these men DON'T COUNT the cost coz they didn't think they'd get caught out! 😛

                      You know, we've been talking about men being caught or found out...what about those who don't? It doesn't make EMA go away...and it truly changes the relationship (I'm assuming there was one with the spouse to even begin with) forever.

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                        autumnbronze
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                        buds:
                        Men's choice of frenz also do play a part in the straying process.

                        If one is surrounded by good friends, the limits of exposure to
                        straying is less... as compared to when one has tons of frenz
                        who strays as a hobby. Sure got a lot of lobang to share and
                        tips to help noobies not to get caught by their spouses..

                        Oh that I agree with, very very much so.

                        My DH and I used to hang out with a grp of JC classmates when we were dating. We were v v close. Get togethers and all that.

                        Then the galfrds came in ....

                        Then they got married ....

                        Then they had kids ....

                        Then comparisons started ie the 5Cs .... (actually b4 the kids came)

                        We stopped meeting up ... was getting too superficial.

                        Fast Forward, almost ten yrs down the road, out of the four males, three have strayed/are straying for various reasons. When DH met up with them for 'prata session', quite surprised at the tremendous change in them. They also attributed their EMAs to their wives ie don't take care of appearance anymore, lack of sex with them, too preoccupied with kids etc... One of them is a successful owner of a chain of stores catering to kids, teens and those young at heart.

                        When he came back and related this, I had goosebumps. Imagine if we had played along with their superficiality and maintained the frdship. Not to mention the high monthly payments to accomodate the car and condo/house etc.... :!:

                        When we talk about the EMA in a r/s, he used to tell me, like 3boys that the spouse's happiness lays in the wife's hands. But recently, when someone we know strayed and got into trouble (woman was trying to blackmail him) and turned to DH for help, I asked DH, this theory doesn't apply as the wife had tried her best to make him happy (to my knowledge). She's attractive and slim too. But, apparently, the someone was 'influenced' by another frd of his about this woman and was persuaded to 'give it a try.' He got into trouble (btw, it was his first time). Had a huge headache trying to sort out the problem with the help of DH. Then after when everything was settled, he strayed again :!:

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