DSA 2011
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Hello Verykiasu2010,
Well said and I enjoy reading your post.
Cheers,
Lynn2verykiasu2010:
I am prepared to be stoned for saying this :
I understand how most people feel about FT depriving our kids of a place in good schools. However, is it a fact? Perhaps I could raise the example of NUSH to show that it may not be the case. NUSH planned to take in 170 Year 1 students for 2011 intake. However, even with the high number of so called FTs (even though these FT kids had done their primary education here), NUSH took in only 140 kids, including S1 postings. For those Singaporeans who failed to get a place in NUSH, is it a case of FT depriving them a place or is it a case of NUSH felt that they were not suitable? I believe the number speaks for itself.DVL:
[quote=\"breanne\"]I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means spaces given to foreigners ?
During my time in the uni, many of my classmates were from Malaysia. But guess what? Most of them found jobs & spouse here and 90% have settled down and helped our economy. I believe many of these so called FTs will eventually settle down in Singapore.
1. the number of foreign students do not even make up for the short fall of babies born each year in singapore to replace the aging and dying each year
2. many of them do localise and become citizens, those that return to their home countries will still be part of the network of your kids - when they become decision makers in their countries or their biz at home countries --- at least they understand S'pore better & how we work; and who knows, your kids become minister and they become minister in their countries and lo, it makes international relation better, and easier to manage, they can always call each other.....look at the larger picture please....
3. in any case talented people move freely around the world, whatever their nationalities, that is the nature of thing; & talented singapore citizens are all over the world too, and NOT coming back ! and we need more to replace these too !
4. too much inbreeding is not helpful
when I go to meetings in London & NY, bound to meet Singaporeans working there among the bankers and lawyers.......and scientists in France and Germany .... alongside the Hongkongers and PRC & Taiwanese Chinese in those major cities
it is hoped that the younger students coming here would stay longer with us as they grow up here living the Singaporean way of life, compared to just coming for uni or post-grad.....sure got leakage, just like talented Singaporeans going away
(S'pore not that attractive as a post-grad destination)...give u an idea of talent grooming : NYU has a full campus in Shanghai and Mid East but not S'pore
another way to look at it : singapore got it cheap because these people come as adults /almost adults --- it would otherwise cost Singapore much much more tax payers' money to produce and groom that many bright students (scholars/talent or not) in short notice ... someone else have done the hard work of rearing them....
okay, let the stones fly ..... :siam: :siam:
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Hi vk2010,
U have said nothing but the truth though I do feel uncomfortable when I saw a few china mummies chit chatting at the RI gep interview area last week
... The chance of getting into once dream school is lesser by the no of prc .... Though not all are ' fightable'/'compatible .... Sorry if I offend anyone but just speaking from the bottom of my heart, be it Kiasu, under confident or selfish ....
Nevertheless what u said is very true and is the fact not the fats ... We got to learn to accept it somehow ...... :roll: ... :imconstipated: -
Hi , just to share that we have recd the notification of audition from DHS on early next week.
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Congrats Brenda10.Which audition is your dd going for?
cheers
Lynn2Brenda10:
Hi , just to share that we have recd the notification of audition from DHS on early next week.
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Lynn2:
Hi LynnCongrats Brenda10.Which audition is your dd going for?
cheers
Lynn2
Thank you.
We use the CCA - Chinese Dance. -
Hello Brenda10,
That is great.All the best.
Cheers
Lynn2Brenda10:
Hi LynnLynn2:
Congrats Brenda10.Which audition is your dd going for?
cheers
Lynn2
Thank you.
We use the CCA - Chinese Dance. -
Lynn2:
Hello Brenda10,
That is great.All the best.
Cheers
Lynn2
Thank you Lynn! -
vlim:
Presumably the China mummies were there to accompany their GEP kids for the interview. So they've been in the Singapore system for at least 3 years already. I wouldn't consider these 'foreign' students. Many of these students have assimilated very well into our system and by Sec 1 you can't tell the difference between them and our local kids, except possibly their very high standard of Chinese.Hi vk2010,
U have said nothing but the truth though I do feel uncomfortable when I saw a few china mummies chit chatting at the RI gep interview area last week ... The chance of getting into once dream school is lesser by the no of prc .... Though not all are ' fightable'/'compatible .... Sorry if I offend anyone but just speaking from the bottom of my heart, be it Kiasu, under confident or selfish ....
Nevertheless what u said is very true and is the fact not the fats ... We got to learn to accept it somehow ...... :roll: ... :imconstipated: I don't see them as depriving our kids of spots in schools.
There have always been foreign students in our mix. In my day they were called Asean Scholars. Today, many of them have settled in Singapore and are contributing towards the economy. For those who've gone home or to other shores, we can count them among our network for business or political contacts. -
verykiasu2010:
I am prepared to be stoned for saying this :DVL:
[quote=\"breanne\"]I feel sad hearing that we are adopting FT from such a young age knowing that many are merely using Singapore as a stepping stone. In fact today's Sunday Times interviewed a boy studying in local school (father award winning newscaster or something) who said US is better for making money. 20% of enrolment -- combining RI, HCI and NUSH year 1 enrolment, 20% means 150 spaces given to foreigners ?
I understand how most people feel about FT depriving our kids of a place in good schools. However, is it a fact? Perhaps I could raise the example of NUSH to show that it may not be the case. NUSH planned to take in 170 Year 1 students for 2011 intake. However, even with the high number of so called FTs (even though these FT kids had done their primary education here), NUSH took in only 140 kids, including S1 postings. For those Singaporeans who failed to get a place in NUSH, is it a case of FT depriving them a place or is it a case of NUSH felt that they were not suitable? I believe the number speaks for itself.
During my time in the uni, many of my classmates were from Malaysia. But guess what? Most of them found jobs & spouse here and 90% have settled down and helped our economy. I believe many of these so called FTs will eventually settle down in Singapore.
1. the number of foreign students do not even make up for the short fall of babies born each year in singapore to replace the aging and dying each year
2. many of them do localise and become citizens, those that return to their home countries will still be part of the network of your kids - when they become decision makers in their countries or their biz at home countries --- at least they understand S'pore better & how we work; and who knows, your kids become minister and they become minister in their countries and lo, it makes international relation better, and easier to manage, they can always call each other.....look at the larger picture please....
3. in any case talented people move freely around the world, whatever their nationalities, that is the nature of thing; & talented singapore citizens are all over the world too, and NOT coming back ! and we need more to replace these too !
4. too much inbreeding is not helpful
when I go to meetings in London & NY, bound to meet Singaporeans working there among the bankers and lawyers.......and scientists in France and Germany .... alongside the Hongkongers and PRC & Taiwanese Chinese in those major cities
it is hoped that the younger students coming here would stay longer with us as they grow up here living the Singaporean way of life, compared to just coming for uni or post-grad.....sure got leakage, just like talented Singaporeans going away
(S'pore not that attractive as a post-grad destination)...give u an idea of talent grooming : NYU has a full campus in Shanghai and Mid East but not S'pore
another way to look at it : singapore got it cheap because these people come as adults /almost adults --- it would otherwise cost Singapore much much more tax payers' money to produce and groom that many bright students (scholars/talent or not) in short notice ... someone else have done the hard work of rearing them....
okay, let the stones fly ..... :siam: :siam: [/quote]
verykiasu2010,
dun worry, no stones... but lots of :salute: :salute: :salute:
I think Singaporean are worrying too much about all these FTs... it's happening everywhere... wat's more impt is our children put in the effort in whatever they're doing.... they might become FT of other country in future.... :rotflmao: -
Major misconception here on the definition of so called ‘‘foreign students’’.
Any student who has attempted Singapore Cambridge GCE A-Level/Local Poly Diploma/IB Diploma thru Singapore schools/NUSH Diploma, they are all calssified as local students irrespective of nationalities. Like what some hve mentiioned, they hve already assimilated in our local scene. For those on local grants, no bond is required however, need to serve 3 yrs working here after graduation as payback.
That’s why my focus has always been on pre-u exams not any other exams.
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