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phtthp\" post_id=\"2021698\" time=\"1619647424\" user_id=\"35251:
Yes, school allowed.
Why not ask your daughter to check & clarify with her own school VP (Academic) first, whether this Sec 3 subject combination (Art + Triple Sciences ) is even allowed in the first case, because is so demanding !sembgal\" post_id=\"2021678\" time=\"1619623493\" user_id=\"5559:
Hi
Is AEP considered Higher Art for O levels?
If a school is not under AEP, but offers Higher Art to pupils as optional subject, is it worth taking as Higher Art can be counted towards LIR5 and if it will be taxing for triple Science students to take Higher Art ?
If your girl still insist on doing Art, then she should drop back to Double Sciences, in order to accommodate the demands of Art
Doing double Science comes with double Humanities so it does not make sense to take Higher Art since it is considered a 3rd Humanities for L1R5 computation.
Triple Science comes with 1 elective humanities - Eg: SS + Geo
The Higher Art will be considered 2nd Humanities subject for triple pure Science. -
the far more important questions to ask are
firstly, can she cope with
Triple pure Sciences +
compulsory Social studies which is another brand new subject to learn at Sec 3 (in the O level program) +
another extra compulsory subject called "Elective" ?
This by itself,
is already an extremely very heavy demanding curriculum workload to balance & to cope.
Furthermore, if not wrong, over & above all these, your daughter also taking up Higher Chinese, right ?
Higher Chinese is very siong !
Seriously, you & your daughter need to be honest, answer this qn truthfully yourselves, before even bring in Art.
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If throw in another Art,
will the weighing scale in the weighing machine tip ?
How is she going to find time to manage Art project + other Art involvement + Triple Sciences, not Double Sciences. Consider carefully ! You are putting too much on her plate
If halfway through cannot cope, how?
Got to drop one of them.
Can drop Art or drop one of her Triple Sciences, ie. drop Bio or drop Physics, since after all, A-level only allow maximum two pure Sciences, apart from H2 Maths, if she is a 2024 JC1 Science stream student, intending to take up PCMX or BCMX
where X can be Humanities
But will Moe allow her to drop Higher Art, if half way through, want to drop Art because it is so time consuming & heavy ?
For this, please check with Moe first.
Because
got a colleague’s daughter who took up MEP
Half way through MEP, she cannot cope, so told school that she want to drop MEP. School VP replied that she need to inform MOE, since MOE was the one who approved her MEP. After informed MOE, MOE told her that she cannot drop MEP, but can drop of her other subjects instead. So, confirm all these first, before even take up Art -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2021705\" time=\"1619651393\" user_id=\"35251:
Hi
the far more important questions to ask are
firstly, can she cope with
Triple pure Sciences +
compulsory Social studies which is another brand new subject to learn at Sec 3 (in the O level program) +
another extra compulsory subject called \"Elective\" ?
This by itself,
is already an extremely very heavy demanding curriculum workload to balance & to cope.
Furthermore, if not wrong, your daughter also taking up Higher Chinese, right ?
Higher Chinese is very siong !
Seriously, you & your daughter need to be honest, answer this qn truthfully yourselves, before even bring in Art.
==========================
If throw in another Art,
will the weighing scale in the weighing machine tip ?
How is she going to find time to manage Art project + other Art involvement + Triple Sciences, not Double Sciences. Consider carefully ! You are putting too much on her plate
If halfway through cannot cope, how?
Got to drop one of them.
Can drop Art or drop one of the Triple Sciences, ie. drop Bio or drop Physics, since after all, A-level only allow maximum two pure Sciences, apart from H2 Maths, if she is a 2024 JC1 Science stream student, intending to take up PCMX or BCMX
where X can be Humanities
Thanks for the reply. It would be beneficial to share with some of my friends’ children.
We know that some secondary schools offer double humanities ( elective and pure ) together with triple pure Science but it is rare for school to offer optional subject, Higher Art, as the 2nd Humanities subject on top of triple Science and single elective humanities subject. The Higher Art syllabus is based on the latest 2021 syllabus which is different from previous syllabus unlike past years.
As parents, the role is to provide advice and not make the decision. Ultimately, the decision made has to be based on children’s strengths and interests. -
My recommendation is to avoid Triple Science + Higher Art.
Triple Science combi already minimally implies the following subjects:
English
Mother Tongue
E Math
A Math
SS/Humanities Elective
Pure Physics
Pure Chemistry
Pure Biology
That is already a whopping 8 subjects. 3 pure sciences + 2 math is already very time consuming (assuming you are hoping your child excels in all of them). Higher Art is a coursework subject and requires a lot of time after school to complete their submission. Coupled with the huge amount of homework for the other subjects + CCA (taking up leadership positions in Sec 3) + rest time (don’t want to go crazy!), unless your child is a very gifted student, she might end up sleep-deprived and stressed out. -
Geography or History? Please share your views. Child has little interest in both and effort to put in are same for both subjects. Thank you.
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sweetbaby\" post_id=\"2040572\" time=\"1633319245\" user_id=\"16633:
If effort required for both is equal, and (lack of) interest in both is equal, then it can be really hard to choose. But then again, I think upper sec history is quite different from lower sec history, so effort and interest in upper sec history may or may not be the same for upper sec geo. Am I making sense?
Geography or History? Please share your views. Child has little interest in both and effort to put in are same for both subjects. Thank you. -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2040575\" time=\"1633319650\" user_id=\"2964:
Yes, Upper Sec is WW1 and WW2 history so probably more interesting to most students than the Singapore history that they cover in lower sec.
If effort required for both is equal, and (lack of) interest in both is equal, then it can be really hard to choose. But then again, I think upper sec history is quite different from lower sec history, so effort and interest in upper sec history may or may not be the same for upper sec geo. Am I making sense?sweetbaby\" post_id=\"2040572\" time=\"1633319245\" user_id=\"16633:
Geography or History? Please share your views. Child has little interest in both and effort to put in are same for both subjects. Thank you.
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chika2021\" post_id=\"2040178\" time=\"1633091200\" user_id=\"195200:
But somehow it is still the wishlist of kids to take triple science. At least that is what I have heard so far from other friends who say their kids aiming triple science. Maybe its the prestige or wanting to avoid another humanities. Aiya end of the day, be it black cat or white cat, so long the kid enjoys and can do well, that is the most impt.......
My recommendation is to avoid Triple Science + Higher Art.
Triple Science combi already minimally implies the following subjects:
English
Mother Tongue
E Math
A Math
SS/Humanities Elective
Pure Physics
Pure Chemistry
Pure Biology
That is already a whopping 8 subjects. 3 pure sciences + 2 math is already very time consuming (assuming you are hoping your child excels in all of them). Higher Art is a coursework subject and requires a lot of time after school to complete their submission. Coupled with the huge amount of homework for the other subjects + CCA (taking up leadership positions in Sec 3) + rest time (don't want to go crazy!), unless your child is a very gifted student, she might end up sleep-deprived and stressed out. -
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If effort required for both is equal, and (lack of) interest in both is equal, then it can be really hard to choose. But then again, I think upper sec history is quite different from lower sec history, so effort and interest in upper sec history may or may not be the same for upper sec geo. Am I making sense?
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Good point. I’ll get him to explore upper sec history and geo topics and skills needed. Thank you. -
nms1\" post_id=\"2040576\" time=\"1633319858\" user_id=\"13601:
Yes, Upper Sec is WW1 and WW2 history so probably more interesting to most students than the Singapore history that they cover in lower sec.[/quote]True. Should be a popular topic among boys. He always thought he'll do Geo. But he really struggled this year. Somehow cant manage to write the answers as required. Similar to history too.
If effort required for both is equal, and (lack of) interest in both is equal, then it can be really hard to choose. But then again, I think upper sec history is quite different from lower sec history, so effort and interest in upper sec history may or may not be the same for upper sec geo. Am I making sense?MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2040575\" time=\"1633319650\" user_id=\"2964:
[quote=sweetbaby post_id=2040572 time=1633319245 user_id=16633]Geography or History? Please share your views. Child has little interest in both and effort to put in are same for both subjects. Thank you.
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